Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
XBrettKennyX wrote:Oh grow up Wolfie!
Your time is over, along with the rest of the Communists.
Communism was tried, it failed.
Look at Russia now vs 20 years ago
Look at China now vs 10 years ago.
What have they all got in common?
1. Capitalism 2. Massively increased economies and living standards
If you want to carry on knitting yoghurt, then please yourself, but do not try the socialist nonsense argument as it simply doesn't work.
You conveniently omitted 3) - totalitarian administrations
If you think that the USSR and PRC are either communist or even socialist, then may I suggest you really do need to do a little more studying.
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I’ve swigged a bottle of Dom Pérignon Champaign whilst on the dole. A drink that is normally associated with those who have successful working lives. It was a friends drink mind and he decided to share with me because we was celebrating what was a good day that day.
Just because I sometimes indulge in binge drinking, it doesn’t mean that I don’t want a job. In fact because of the experiences that I’ve had with drinking I want a job more than ever because that will afford me better and more drinks.
However you’ll be pleased to know that I have curved my drinking habits down this year so I can focus more on doing something different with my life. I think using the money for membership at a decent gym is another factor why I cut down on booze as well.
I’m now waiting for the outrage that people on the dole should lose weight by getting chased by cars on motorways or as already suggested in this thread - starve because they don’t have a job. All I can say to that is I get given what I’m entitled to and I manage that money well.
Finally I just want to thank those who have sympathise with my situation on here. I will be taking on Sally’s advice of ignoring the forum bullies on this thread from now on as I want to try and add more sides to the unemployment debate rather than have it all focused on my own struggles.
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World of Redboy wrote:Bullpoop. I know what it's like to be on the dole, having recently spent 17 months unemployed, but never once did I have the attitude this whining waster had eg 3day drinking binge.
Does anyone know Damo personally outside of Sin Bin and RL Fans? I'm only curious because you only know what he tells you. I'm not for one minute suggesting Damo is an outright liar but sometimes what people say on a public forum and what they do in real life are two different things. And as for his drinking binges, I know Damo has parents, my parents used to help me out when I was young and on the dole, maybe they gift him money too??
He has also said he has a disability - Aspergers - maybe those of you who are quick to have a go at him learn something about his condition instead and try to understand how the world is for him and why he posts some of the things he does.
And to Damo, well done on your voluntary work, it will give you experience will look good on on your CV, get you references and improve your chances of work. Good Luck to you.
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Damo, imo you can do whatever you want. I have absolutely no problems with you whatsoever.
In general though, I would cut benefits massively.
If you want to stay unemployed and get zero money, then good luck to you. HOWEVER, I don't see why taxpayers (and it IS taxpayers, not "The Government"), should hand out money to you, if you do not work.
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XBrettKennyX wrote:If you want to stay unemployed and get zero money, then good luck to you. HOWEVER, I don't see why taxpayers (and it IS taxpayers, not "The Government"), should hand out money to you, if you do not work.
And once all the vacancies are filled what would you do with those without work? Leave them to starve? We are in the midst of the worst economic climate in living memory, even those who really want to work can't find jobs, never mind the feckless.
Big Graeme wrote:And once all the vacancies are filled what would you do with those without work? Leave them to starve? We are in the midst of the worst economic climate in living memory, even those who really want to work can't find jobs, never mind the feckless.
? Damo has said he has been offered work but didn't take it.
I am all for a safety net, but when that's abused, that's the key.
There are currently 500,000 jobs that are not filled in the UK.
I would say we have some way to go before your scenario wouldn't you?
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Joined: Mar 08 2002 Posts: 26578 Location: On the set of NEDS...
XBrettKennyX wrote:? Damo has said he has been offered work but didn't take it.
I am all for a safety net, but when that's abused, that's the key.
Indeed, if you read back you'd see I agree.
XBrettKennyX wrote:There are currently 500,000 jobs that are not filled in the UK.
Mmm and how many vacancies are there unfilled for any great length of time? Even in the good times there are always a certain amount of vacancies and a natural part of the jobs market, there has to be to make it work.
There are 2.68 million people unemployed that is over 2 million without work on your figures, what would you cut for them? Even if there is 50% feckless and workshy that still leaves a million who want to work but can't.
Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Rock God X wrote:So am I the only one who's realised that Damo is a troll?
you're wrong mate, ask McLF
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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