Joined: May 10 2002 Posts: 47951 Location: Die Metropole
Chief Stinkwort wrote:...all of which, in today's economic climate is about as rational as saying to an amputee: 'Why don't you just go out and grow a new leg. Have you thought of getting someone else's leg. There's loads of legs out there. It's you're own fault you're struggling to walk.'
My only worry with your post is that there are probably people on here who actually believe it's a sane argument.
I may be wrong, but I suspect that Sally wasn't being entirely serious.
But he brings up a point – which is the 'aspirational' that has taken off over the last 30 years and which seems to centre on the idea that 'I want more stuff' is good. Which of course it is, when you base your economy on the service and retail sectors. And therefore, it makes it part of the overall problem.
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Mintball wrote:I may be wrong, but I suspect that Sally wasn't being entirely serious.
I certainly hope so. If I thought for a moment that it was antthing other than satirical I would have had a real blast at her, rather than anonymous 'other people' who might take it as a serious argument.
Chief Stinkwort wrote:I certainly hope so. If I thought for a moment that it was antthing other than satirical I would have had a real blast at her, rather than anonymous 'other people' who might take it as a serious argument.
Also, I think 'she' is a 'he'.
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Hull White Star wrote:Don't joke. One of the criteria to get DLA/PIP now will be you can only receive it if you cannot get out of a wheelchair to walk 50m, even with crutches and/or zimmer frame and even then you have to be able to propell that wheelchair the distance yourself, someone else pushing you doesn't count as they class it as you have the help (ie the pusher)
And theres STILL some people out there who cannot praise this government enough.
Sorry if my lampoonery came over as being at the expense of the disabled, It wasn't meant to be. I'm pretty disgusted by Tory attacks on DLA, social care and respite myself.
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Chief Stinkwort wrote:Sorry if my lampoonery came over as being at the expense of the disabled, It wasn't meant to be. I'm pretty disgusted by Tory attacks on DLA, social care and respite myself.
I didn't take it that way I meant it to mean what you said was not far from the truth
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Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18060 Location: On the road
Damo-Leeds wrote:My cousin managed to find work in Rhyl which is one of the worse areas in the UK to find work. They’ll always be success stories of people getting into employment when so many people are trying. You put one thousand unemployed people into a room and the probability is that some of them will get a job if you sent them all on a task looking for one. But in this current jobs market many of them would more than likely remain unemployed. It’s just simple maths.
Now they was a time when I did knock on every door in the area and passed my CV on. But after a while (probably in my second year of unemployment) I though f**k this because no ones giving me a break and I didn’t want to spend a lifetime applying for loads of jobs every week. So these days I apply for jobs when I feel like it whilst doing some voluntary work.
And sal you didn’t offer me a straight out job. It was a job opportunity like any other job opening out they.
Untrue - it was a definite position, albeit and unskilled role but it was a definite not an opportunity. It would have guaranteed you 40 hours of game full employment. I think you didn't fancy the start time - 7.00 - nor the idea of starting at the bottom. Easier to stay in bed and moan about how unfair life is whilst the rest of toil away to provide the funds for you to idle your day away on the internet watching Denise Welch get her tits out!! You should be ashamed of your attitude - the fact you think it is funny is a total disgrace.
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
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Sal Paradise wrote:Untrue - it was a definite position, albeit and unskilled role but it was a definite not an opportunity. It would have guaranteed you 40 hours of game full employment. I think you didn't fancy the start time - 7.00 - nor the idea of starting at the bottom. Easier to stay in bed and moan about how unfair life is whilst the rest of toil away to provide the funds for you to idle your day away on the internet watching Denise Welch get her tits out!! You should be ashamed of your attitude - the fact you think it is funny is a total disgrace.
Turning this down should mean he loses any benefit.
Damo, you have no leg to stand on and backs up my shirker claim, Sal and I may not agree on quite a lot of things but to throw this offer backing in his face is nothing short of criminal.
Sal Paradise wrote:Untrue - it was a definite position, albeit and unskilled role but it was a definite not an opportunity. It would have guaranteed you 40 hours of game full employment. I think you didn't fancy the start time - 7.00 - nor the idea of starting at the bottom. Easier to stay in bed and moan about how unfair life is whilst the rest of toil away to provide the funds for you to idle your day away on the internet watching Denise Welch get her tits out!! You should be ashamed of your attitude - the fact you think it is funny is a total disgrace.
Until you can get someone or something to back you up that it was proper employment as opposed to just an opportunity to apply for, then people will just have to take your word for it. So feel free to speculate all you want in the meantime. But that’s all it’ll be - speculation and not solid FACT.
However to make a sweeping statement that I think that this is amusing is insulting. Anyone who has kept a close eye on these boards over the pass couple of years could clearly suss that I’m someone who absolutely loathes been unemployed.
Finally I am grateful that you made an effort of trying to get me into employment. Unfortunately your latest comments have left me wondering if you had an hidden agenda which involved using your interaction with me as fodder to help strengthen your clear dislike of me for future debates like this one.
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