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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:30 pm 
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We've touched on this subject recently, but here's a case that's arisen north of the border that has huge ramifications, potentially.

It seems to me that, the minutes the plaintiffs used a phrase like "feticide", well of course the council said it wasn't guilty.

But it begs the question – yet again – of exactly how much leeway should be given to people who are in jobs where some aspect of their work conflicts with their personal, religious beliefs.

Would you take a job where such a conflict might occur?

How much should the employer do to take into account your beliefs?

It should be said that 'beliefs' should be taken to mean any beliefs, religious or otherwise – but does it, in practise? Or is this another example of religious belief being held to be particularly important?
We've touched on this subject recently, but here's a case that's arisen north of the border that has huge ramifications, potentially.

It seems to me that, the minutes the plaintiffs used a phrase like "feticide", well of course the council said it wasn't guilty.

But it begs the question – yet again – of exactly how much leeway should be given to people who are in jobs where some aspect of their work conflicts with their personal, religious beliefs.

Would you take a job where such a conflict might occur?

How much should the employer do to take into account your beliefs?

It should be said that 'beliefs' should be taken to mean any beliefs, religious or otherwise – but does it, in practise? Or is this another example of religious belief being held to be particularly important?






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Would Ms Doogan and Mrs Wood be happy then, if they found themselves involved in an accident, to find that a colleague, who happened to be a Jehova's Witness, decided that to give them a transfusion would be "against god's will"?






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 Post subject: Re: Religion's influence in the UK
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Its the same as anything else. If you take a job where you know you're going to have to do something you don't like, you have the right to go and do something else.






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I would happily convert to Hare Krishna if it got me a job!

Obviously I'd rule out becoming a Muslim if the job was to live the good life for a couple of years (funded and provided by fanatics) in return for blowing myself up in any location of my bosses choice.

The bottom line is that every place you go has their own rules and regulations so religious people should respect them. In return Atheist won't go in places of worship and start doing things that disrespects the worshippers. Works both ways!






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ROBINSON wrote:Its the same as anything else. If you take a job where you know you're going to have to do something you don't like, you have the right to go and do something else.


Indeed, I dare say their nursing skills could be put to good use elsewhere, they would have to take a pay cut mind.






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Well, if you believe in Human Rights Legislation then you should support them.

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The fact people still believe this mumbo jumbo staggers me, my Aunty who is a trained bio-chemist, extremely intelligent and fantastically well off and yet is a proper religious nut, i look at her and wonder how it managed to infect such a seemingly intelligent brain?






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Horatio Yed wrote:The fact people still believe this mumbo jumbo staggers me, my Aunty who is a trained bio-chemist, extremely intelligent and fantastically well off and yet is a proper religious nut, i look at her and wonder how it managed to infect such a seemingly intelligent brain?


It's just one proof that brainwashing, especially from an early age, is a viciously effective tool.






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Horatio Yed wrote:The fact people still believe this mumbo jumbo staggers me, my Aunty who is a trained bio-chemist, extremely intelligent and fantastically well off and yet is a proper religious nut, i look at her and wonder how it managed to infect such a seemingly intelligent brain?


Maybe it's BECAUSE she's intelligent? Strikes me that most people who VIGOROUSLY criticise religion are uninspirational, low-grade, slovenly people. Just an observation. By contrast most religious people seem to engender respect by virtue of their inner strength and have strong self-discipline, which often helps them succeed in adversity - whether in life, business, sport, or whatever. Indeed, I firmly believe that some of the greatest sportsmemn (including boxers and RL players - think Murphy and Karalius) only acheived greatness an their edge in adversity through their faith.


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Nice put down, but i do quite well for myself actually and so do many people i know who don't believe in religion.






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