David Burrowes wrote:"There are strong doubts that we need to go down this path. It would open up a can of worms and a legal minefield about freedom, religion and equalities legislation."
Really? It would improve freedom and equality as far as I can see. And if allowing all members of society the same freedoms as each other upsets the religious, that's their problem.
David Burrowes wrote:"There are strong doubts that we need to go down this path. It would open up a can of worms and a legal minefield about freedom, religion and equalities legislation."
Really? It would improve freedom and equality as far as I can see. And if allowing all members of society the same freedoms as each other upsets the religious, that's their problem.
Christianity: because you're so awful you made God kill himself.
Post subject: Re: Tory MPs 'go to war' over gay marriage
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:43 pm
Wire Yed
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TBF it's not all of them[Tories]
But for the ones that are, how pathetic.
What's the harm in 2 people that love each other getting married, 'kin hell it's the 21st century. Why anyone still has hang ups on gay people i'll never know, it's their life, let them live it how they want to.
Post subject: Re: Tory MPs 'go to war' over gay marriage
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:50 pm
ROBINSON
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Hang on - that article says that the 'Tories' are trying to LEGALISE gay marriage, and a small faction are standing in the way of it.
But your post is dressed up as all the 'Tories' being against it, which isn't the case, is it? I'm damn sure you could find a few Labour MPs with the same views if you looked.
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Post subject: Re: Tory MPs 'go to war' over gay marriage
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:53 pm
McLaren_Field
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Rock God X wrote: Really? It would improve freedom and equality as far as I can see. And if allowing all members of society the same freedoms as each other upsets the religious, that's their problem.
Its simply about control, which is all that religion is, a method by which you control a population.
It worked in the middle ages with uneducated peasants and probably works in much the same way in certain parts of Europe for the same reasons, but here its got them frightened for without control your income falls - and thats a terrifying prospect for a bunch of people who are not used to being challenged about the validity of their claims.
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Post subject: Re: Tory MPs 'go to war' over gay marriage
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:11 pm
Rock God X
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ROBINSON wrote:Hang on - that article says that the 'Tories' are trying to LEGALISE gay marriage, and a small faction are standing in the way of it.
But your post is dressed up as all the 'Tories' being against it, which isn't the case, is it? I'm damn sure you could find a few Labour MPs with the same views if you looked.
My post does not say 'the tories', it says 'tory MPs', which is what the Indy headline says. You should think about what you've read before rushing into a response.
As for it being 'a small fraction', I'd say a third (or more) of the tory MPs is quite a significant fraction.
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Post subject: Re: Tory MPs 'go to war' over gay marriage
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:12 pm
ROBINSON
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Rock God X wrote:My post does not say 'the tories', it says 'tory MPs', which is what the Indy headline says. You should think about what you've read before rushing into a response.
As for it being 'a small fraction', I'd say a third (or more) of the tory MPs is quite a significant fraction.
And you believe that, do you?
Very strange.
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Post subject: Re: Tory MPs 'go to war' over gay marriage
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:16 pm
Rock God X
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ROBINSON wrote:And you believe that, do you?
Very strange.
Believe what? That a third of tory MPs are likely to oppose the idea? Well, the article says:
Quote: Opponents claim more than 100 Tory backbenchers could vote against gay marriage, dwarfing the number who voted for a Europe referendum last October.
As there are 305 Conservative MPs in Westminster, 'more than 100' would equate to at least a third.
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