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 Post subject: Re: France training camp.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:44 am 
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Like it or not most coaches will have a core squad of around 23 or 24 players whom they'll pick their team from, if you're outside of that, albeit within the wider squad of 30, then you know your challenge is to force your way in.

In the final few weeks before the season the coach will want to ramp up the quality, intensity and intimacy of the training sessions and you can't achieve that with 30 players. A higher degree of focus will be applied to those players who are most likely to pull on the shirt in the first few games of the season, that's the nature of elite sport prep.

Those outside of the 23 can take it one of two ways, get demotivated, bitter and give up or or use it as motivation and target someone in the 23 as the man they will replace and fire up for the challenge.

I've no doubt that the coaching team will have spoken to every player and explained the whys and wherefores of the pecking order. Each player will have a programme for improvement whether it's technical, physical or mental or a combination of all three. Some players will have had a brutal assessment of their ability explained to them in explicit detail they won't like it but some will handle it and some won't.

This is elite sport we're talking about not some amateur club where half the lads only play for social reasons, it is cut throat so players need to man up, stop moaning and buckle down, which I think they're all doing.






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 Post subject: Re: France training camp.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:50 am 
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Sesquipedalian wrote:Like it or not most coaches will have a core squad of around 23 or 24 players whom they'll pick their team from, if you're outside of that, albeit within the wider squad of 30, then you know your challenge is to force your way in.

In the final few weeks before the season the coach will want to ramp up the quality, intensity and intimacy of the training sessions and you can't achieve that with 30 players. A higher degree of focus will be applied to those players who are most likely to pull on the shirt in the first few games of the season, that's the nature of elite sport prep.

Those outside of the 23 can take it one of two ways, get demotivated, bitter and give up or or use it as motivation and target someone in the 23 as the man they will replace and fire up for the challenge.

I've no doubt that the coaching team will have spoken to every player and explained the whys and wherefores of the pecking order. Each player will have a programme for improvement whether it's technical, physical or mental or a combination of all three. Some players will have had a brutal assessment of their ability explained to them in explicit detail they won't like it but some will handle it and some won't.

This is elite sport we're talking about not some amateur club where half the lads only play for social reasons, this cut throat so players need to man up, stop moaning and buckle down, Which I think they're all doing.


exactly

I think it has all been taken out of context, what do you all want them to do go on a all week bender :DRUNK:

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 Post subject: Re: France training camp.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:53 am 
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Players not going that I know of:

Morton
Moore
Kaye
Slater
Annekin
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 Post subject: Re: France training camp.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:16 pm 
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Uptoncat wrote:Players not going that I know of:

Morton
Moore
Kaye
Slater
Annekin
Davey
Spiers


So that means:
Walshaw
Trout
Wildie
Cowling

...are going! Well done to them on their elevation to the elite in our club and let us hope that the others can aspire to their level! :CLAP:






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 Post subject: Re: France training camp.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:08 pm 
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Exactly TRB. I believe this is the first year of full time training for slater and annekin too so they would have had to have done exceptionally well to get in. feel for Moore and davey after their performances on Friday night but we have to trust the coach.

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 Post subject: Re: France training camp.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:09 pm 
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Maybe annekin was full time last season thinking about it. If so then bows the time he should really be stepping up and proving a point

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 Post subject: Re: France training camp.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:11 pm 
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TRB wrote:So that means:
Walshaw
Trout
Wildie
Cowling

...are going! Well done to them on their elevation to the elite in our club and let us hope that the others can aspire to their level! :CLAP:



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 Post subject: Re: France training camp.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:17 pm 
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BIGAL1 wrote:Does it matter if they would have gone elsewhere if they don't get a fair shout, it makes no difference that they are retained if they don't get into a full time environment.

I understand its not been going long enough for these lads (1873) but i would like to know what improvements have been made to training/development, its not just about keeping chosen players at Wakey is it, if they don't get the correct advice and training they won't make it.

Just because we stop players moving to other clubs won't help them or us.

We should be making a big splash about how things have changed and the new way forward for juniors at Wakey and not just retaining and holding back talent. Do you agree since the wholly grail meeting we've seen/heard nothing about youth policies.

Do we have new conditioners in place, do we have forward thinking coaches, are we bulking/dieting these players correctly.

Its probably a bit off thread topic but forgive me.


I certainly agree with what you say. Isn't this something where the ST can act as a conduit between the club and the fans. Certainly, if the structures aren't being changed, then they will lose alot of contributors to 1873.

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Tricky2309 wrote:I certainly agree with what you say. Isn't this something where the ST can act as a conduit between the club and the fans. Certainly, if the structures aren't being changed, then they will lose alot of contributors to 1873.


Hear what you and Big Al are saying and we will take this up with the Club.

I agree the members of 1873 would like to know what changes/benefits 1873 is making to the Club but we have to remember 1873 is still in its infancy and we have to let the Management run the Club as they see fit but we will raise the issue.






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 Post subject: Re: France training camp.
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Sandal Cat wrote:Hear what you and Big Al are saying and we will take this up with the Club.

I agree the members of 1873 would like to know what changes/benefits 1873 is making to the Club but we have to remember 1873 is still in its infancy and we have to let the Management run the Club as they see fit but we will raise the issue.


Cheers SC. I agree with what you say, but the communication from the club has greatly improved overall and this is one area where we haven't heard much. The odd progress update would be welcome and should be something that the club are able to provide.

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