Post subject: Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:22 pm
Mark_W
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Joined: Oct 12 2004 Posts: 4142 Location: SouthStand
Roddy B wrote:Why play any game? No game is perfect, many have come close, but I've never played a game that I felt was perfect from start 'til finish. Even FFVII had some of the hardest boss battles I've ever faced on a game, they were probably too hard as the only way I done them was by researching methods and 'plans'.
I also think you're not grasping the whole process of buying a game. I'm not saying games should cater to everybody's needs, but when you buy your favourite game that's part of a series, you expect to see progress and development. It's why you pay £40 every year for the same title. The alleged progress made on this year's Fifa is completely unacceptable, the game was/is riddled with flaws, the gameplay has completely stagnated, there is little in terms of progress and the calls for a new 'engine' are legitimate, IMO. I don't know if it can be implemented, but if they could get the AI to play more like a character controlled by a human, it would be so much better. By that I don't mean chasing down short goal kicks, or persistently chasing you down with two players. What I mean is just 'up the tempo' of the way they play, instead of keeping the ball for long spells, why not just get the attack out of the way? I do those EA Challenge things, where you get put into a certain scenario. I do most of them, but some are like 'score two goals in the last 10 mins', and it's on World Class or something, you're lucky to get two attacks, let alone two goals. They are possible and I've done them, but it took about 25 restarts.
Fifa isn't difficult, let me get that straight, it's not that hard to play against the CPU on any level providing you play in a certain way. If online wasn't so laggy for me, I'd spend a lot more time playing on that, but I can't take getting beat by lag, or feeling gimped by lag, so I have to play offline which is terrible.
I was meant to quote the posters previous comment regarding hating Fifa. That's why I asked why play it.
Post subject: Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:23 am
TFC
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Joined: Oct 13 2005 Posts: 1763 Location: Filey
I've not played a full game against the CPU on FIFA 12, get bored very quickly. All the CPU seem to do is hold onto the ball at all costs, don't know how anyone can be bothered in comparison to online, especially Ultimate Team.
Speaking of which, I've opened far too many Special Gold Packs, and the best I got was an IF Brad Friedel - 84. I've seen my mates get much better packs and made hundreds of thousands on the market. Anyone on here had any big money players?
Post subject: Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:41 pm
Roddy B
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Joined: Mar 07 2007 Posts: 7121 Location: Warrington
TFC wrote:I've not played a full game against the CPU on FIFA 12, get bored very quickly. All the CPU seem to do is hold onto the ball at all costs, don't know how anyone can be bothered in comparison to online, especially Ultimate Team.
Speaking of which, I've opened far too many Special Gold Packs, and the best I got was an IF Brad Friedel - 84. I've seen my mates get much better packs and made hundreds of thousands on the market. Anyone on here had any big money players?
Had two Sergio Ramos's, an Eto'o, Modric, IF Ramires and I have an IF Gokdeniz Karadeniz stored in my club for a later sale. All of those I've had from packs, but I've bought an IF Guarin, who I paid about 14000 at the time, but he's now price locked at around 40000 so I could make money on. I make most of my money just signing players late at night, then selling them for bigger fees during the day. I've not been well for a few weeks so I've given the PS3 a miss over Christmas, but I'm hoping to get back into it.
If I were you mate, I'd just spend a few nights signing a few players in the later hours. Do a bit of research and you can usually make yourself easy money. I just can't get over EA 'taxing' people coins for selling players, how pathetic is that?
Post subject: Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:55 pm
Enicomb
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Joined: Aug 15 2006 Posts: 2471
Ndamukong wrote:Hardly any? You playing the same game as me? It's on the Xbox by the way.
I've got a staff I can't get rid of. It's part of a quest but the quest hasn't triggered because I somehow found the staff too early. It can be fixed by putting the staff on the weapon racks in my house but wait a minute, they are also bugged Got 3 quests sitting in my list that I can't do because I again found one item too early. I can't buy a house in Markarth despite doing the quests required because the Jarls assistant talked to me when I didn't have the quests done. I'm lucky that it's only these small bugs that have effected me. I also accidentally wondered back into Sanguines little fantasy world. I don't recommend doing it as you can't get back out
I have a friend who's had the game corrupt 2 save files as well as having a load more quests glitch out on her.
Most of those aren't bugs. You can't drop quest items; that's part of the dumbing down to ensure you don't throw away important items. Hardly a bug though as it's by design.
I did find a few bugs by the way, like completed quests staying in my quest log, duplicated quest items (still in my inventory after completing/giving away the item). But nothing major; I finished it after 120 hours, completed all the main stories, side quests and multiple factions etc.
As your on Xbox, as is mine, be thankful you don't have backward flying dragons like on the PS3, now that version is stuffed.
Post subject: Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:05 pm
Ndamukong
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Joined: May 09 2003 Posts: 5103 Location: Not Ford Field
No mate it's nowt to do with the items been quest items. The weapon racks don't work in some of the houses and certain quests don't trigger correctly. Thankfully I had a spare few k of gold so I bought a house in Riften on the off chance the weapon rack might work. It did and I've finally managed to get the god awful Staff of Charming out of my inventory. The amount of quests I can't get out of my log grows by the day!
Post subject: Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:26 pm
JTR
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Joined: Jun 11 2006 Posts: 499
Looks like I have been hit by the XBox Live FIFA hack, just had an email from EA welcoming me to FIFA 12 (despite not owning the game, I also haven't logged into XBox Live since June) knowing about the issue I immediately logged into my xbox.com account, and to no surprise I saw 9 purchases of Fifa 12 DLC at 240 points each had been made
Looks like I have been hit by the XBox Live FIFA hack, just had an email from EA welcoming me to FIFA 12 (despite not owning the game, I also haven't logged into XBox Live since June) knowing about the issue I immediately logged into my xbox.com account, and to no surprise I saw 9 purchases of Fifa 12 DLC at 240 points each had been made
JTR wrote:Looks like I have been hit by the XBox Live FIFA hack, just had an email from EA welcoming me to FIFA 12 (despite not owning the game, I also haven't logged into XBox Live since June) knowing about the issue I immediately logged into my xbox.com account, and to no surprise I saw 9 purchases of Fifa 12 DLC at 240 points each had been made
Xbox is pretty much hackproof if you use it properly. Firstly, ring Microsoft and get an unauthorised access investigation started. They will refund your money and restore the account to you. It will take a while, but if you're not using it, it's no biggie. Then change your Live password but also change your email password if it's the same as your Live password. In future, and this goes for every other Xbox Live user out there, never use a credit card on Live. Use prepaid Live points/membership cards instead. They are cheaper than using your credit card and if your credit card details are not stored, you have no financial exposure beyond the prepaid card value, which you will always get back from Microsoft.
The hackers use FIFA as it's such a popular game that the content they purchase can be sold for real money. I'm not sure how much, it must take them weeks to get any proper money together. But I'm convinced that EA's forums and interactive features such as Ultimate Team app and creation centre are also responsible for the leaked information in the first place. The hackers are not getting into Microsoft's vault, they are getting them from EA, I'm sure, but they won't admit that. Another thing I don't understand is how the hackers continue to do it, as surely their Xbox is perma-banned from Live once they are reported in an unauthorised access case. Do they make that much that they can buy another Xbox each time they do it?
JTR wrote:Looks like I have been hit by the XBox Live FIFA hack, just had an email from EA welcoming me to FIFA 12 (despite not owning the game, I also haven't logged into XBox Live since June) knowing about the issue I immediately logged into my xbox.com account, and to no surprise I saw 9 purchases of Fifa 12 DLC at 240 points each had been made
Xbox is pretty much hackproof if you use it properly. Firstly, ring Microsoft and get an unauthorised access investigation started. They will refund your money and restore the account to you. It will take a while, but if you're not using it, it's no biggie. Then change your Live password but also change your email password if it's the same as your Live password. In future, and this goes for every other Xbox Live user out there, never use a credit card on Live. Use prepaid Live points/membership cards instead. They are cheaper than using your credit card and if your credit card details are not stored, you have no financial exposure beyond the prepaid card value, which you will always get back from Microsoft.
The hackers use FIFA as it's such a popular game that the content they purchase can be sold for real money. I'm not sure how much, it must take them weeks to get any proper money together. But I'm convinced that EA's forums and interactive features such as Ultimate Team app and creation centre are also responsible for the leaked information in the first place. The hackers are not getting into Microsoft's vault, they are getting them from EA, I'm sure, but they won't admit that. Another thing I don't understand is how the hackers continue to do it, as surely their Xbox is perma-banned from Live once they are reported in an unauthorised access case. Do they make that much that they can buy another Xbox each time they do it?
Post subject: Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:15 pm
JTR
Player Coach
Joined: Jun 11 2006 Posts: 499
Saddened! wrote:Xbox is pretty much hackproof if you use it properly. Firstly, ring Microsoft and get an unauthorised access investigation started. They will refund your money and restore the account to you. It will take a while, but if you're not using it, it's no biggie. Then change your Live password but also change your email password if it's the same as your Live password. In future, and this goes for every other Xbox Live user out there, never use a credit card on Live. Use prepaid Live points/membership cards instead. They are cheaper than using your credit card and if your credit card details are not stored, you have no financial exposure beyond the prepaid card value, which you will always get back from Microsoft.
The hackers use FIFA as it's such a popular game that the content they purchase can be sold for real money. I'm not sure how much, it must take them weeks to get any proper money together. But I'm convinced that EA's forums and interactive features such as Ultimate Team app and creation centre are also responsible for the leaked information in the first place. The hackers are not getting into Microsoft's vault, they are getting them from EA, I'm sure, but they won't admit that. Another thing I don't understand is how the hackers continue to do it, as surely their Xbox is perma-banned from Live once they are reported in an unauthorised access case. Do they make that much that they can buy another Xbox each time they do it?
Thanks for the info, thankfully I have only ever bought the pre-paid points cards so there's no danger of them accessing my bank details. I'll give MS a ring in the morning.
Post subject: Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:37 am
Roddy B
Player Coach
Joined: Mar 07 2007 Posts: 7121 Location: Warrington
This whole thing is rather odd here. When you go on the FUT web app, there's constantly been things about not giving this info out, not believing this type of email. But when you see some people saying I haven't been on Live in X amount of months and I don't have Fifa, it does make you wonder what exactly is going on. I can't understand how people can just gain an email address and password without hacking something, it baffles me.
Post subject: Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #9
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:25 am
JTR
Player Coach
Joined: Jun 11 2006 Posts: 499
Roddy B wrote:This whole thing is rather odd here. When you go on the FUT web app, there's constantly been things about not giving this info out, not believing this type of email. But when you see some people saying I haven't been on Live in X amount of months and I don't have Fifa, it does make you wonder what exactly is going on. I can't understand how people can just gain an email address and password without hacking something, it baffles me.
There is definitely some hacking going on somewhere. I know about the importance of PC security and haven't given my password to anybody, or used the same password anywhere else.
Roddy B wrote:This whole thing is rather odd here. When you go on the FUT web app, there's constantly been things about not giving this info out, not believing this type of email. But when you see some people saying I haven't been on Live in X amount of months and I don't have Fifa, it does make you wonder what exactly is going on. I can't understand how people can just gain an email address and password without hacking something, it baffles me.
There is definitely some hacking going on somewhere. I know about the importance of PC security and haven't given my password to anybody, or used the same password anywhere else.
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