Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29816 Location: West Yorkshire
dum-dum wrote:In general conversation with normal folk, do you say e...t...c...e...t...c or do you say etcetera etcetera?
Actually you only need the first one, because it is all-embracing. "Et cetera" means "And everything else".
On topic, the answer to the question on where Rovers will finish is 4th, so redmuzza is correct. From the horse's mouth. Well, Mike Smith's. Good enough.
Joined: Sep 18 2010 Posts: 4623 Location: Easter Island
Mrs Barista wrote:Actually you only need the first one, because it is all-embracing. "Et cetera" means "And everything else".
On topic, the answer to the question on where Rovers will finish is 4th, so redmuzza is correct. From the horse's mouth. Well, Mike Smith's. Good enough.
Well, we know that. I was merely questioning how he would use it in open conversation, if he does.
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Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12672 Location: Leicestershire.
From the outside looking in, we don't yet have that much of a SL pedigree. 4th in the table in 2009 was probably the high-point, but is likely seen as a slight aberration - similar to Wakefield coming 5th that year. Not my opinion, but I'd guess that'd be the perception of some fans of other clubs. Beating Hull in the play-offs the next year was big locally, but won't have registered very high on the wider RL Richter scale. Our 4 other play-off games have ended - 8-44, 16-30, 18-42 and 6-56.
This year we've got a new and untested coach, a couple of players from last year's wooden spoonists, 3 released by Huddersfield and some players from the NRL I'd never heard of at the start of the year. I'm playing devil's advocate there, because I'm quite optimistic that things have been done intelligently, if not spectacularly - but at first glance there isn't much to inspire awe.
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Joined: Aug 21 2011 Posts: 1326 Location: East Hull
We have a tough start to the fixture list, couple this with the wholesale changes we have seen at the club, then I can understand the reasoning behind other clubs fans not giving Rovers much credit.
In many respects, whats happening at Rovers is a massive gamble, and not unlike what Salford tried to achieve last season, and what FC, Wakefield, Widnes, Bradford and London are doing at the moment. The big difference is Rovers have retained the nucleus of their team - Dobson, Green, Galea and Josh Hodgson - which I feel other clubs fans have failed to factor into their reasoning.
Add to this how we all know a team can afford to lose ten-twelve games and make 5th or 6th, this latter point emphasises how unpredictable SL has become. Because of this 'unpredictability,' I think it will provide the space for Sandercock's new team to bed-in and gel quicker, and hopefully come good in the latter half of the season - when it matters most.
I personally don't expect Rovers to threaten the existing top five this season but I do think we are ahead of the other teams I have mentioned and see a play-off place once again, hopefully 6th.
Joined: Jan 19 2006 Posts: 1338 Location: Hibbing, Minnesota.
Sandra The Terrorist wrote:You've said this about Mika a few times now Alex Mc, what are you basing it on?So many new faces makes it a difficult one to call, if we can pick up a few points early doors then hopefully we'll come good later in the season.
I'll be disapointed if we don't make the eight but we're building at the moment.
Even if we don't make the play offs it's imperitive that we stick by Sandercock, we've made our choice and successful teams don't change their coach every year, he needs time to get his systems and processes in place.
Mika is the only 100% Craig Sandercock signing the only one Rovers had not been talking to already. Sandy was very keen to get him and persuaded him to reject Cas who were about to announce him as their player. Sandy also had to ditch Taulapapa to make room.
So the coach clearly rates Mika and when you have people like Brian Smith talking in raptures about the ability of the player then obviously Mika is a very exciting prospect. He is said to run & tackle extremely hard - hence the nickname 'Mika the Mack Truck' and has a great offloading game. Brian Smith said of him that when Mika runs at you then you find out how good your tackling technique is but that also he has the skills of a half back.
It's true he has not yet fulfilled his massive potential mainly due to injury but he's still pretty young at age 22. We will have to see how he performs for us only time will tell but I think we are entitled to be a bit excited by this player.
Joined: Oct 15 2008 Posts: 1944 Location: east hull
IMO you can understand fans of other teams not been overly worried by us, as a few have said we have a NEW coach, plenty of new players, (some unwanted) unknown NRL players, 2 who only played a few games last year aswell. but next season should be a very interseting one IMO, the 3 NRL lads look exciting, plus a few experienced S/L players too then a couple of hungry youngsters will hopefully see us been very competetive.
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His Bobness wrote:Mika is the only 100% Craig Sandercock signing the only one Rovers had not been talking to already. Sandy was very keen to get him and persuaded him to reject Cas who were about to announce him as their player. Sandy also had to ditch Taulapapa to make room.
So the coach clearly rates Mika and when you have people like Brian Smith talking in raptures about the ability of the player then obviously Mika is a very exciting prospect. He is said to run & tackle extremely hard - hence the nickname 'Mika the Mack Truck' and has a great offloading game. Brian Smith said of him that when Mika runs at you then you find out how good your tackling technique is but that also he has the skills of a half back.
It's true he has not yet fulfilled his massive potential mainly due to injury but he's still pretty young at age 22. We will have to see how he performs for us only time will tell but I think we are entitled to be a bit excited by this player.
Interesting stuff His Bobness, didn't know any of that. Thanks.
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Joined: Aug 21 2011 Posts: 1326 Location: East Hull
His Bobness, Sandercock was also instrumental in bringing Shannon McDonnell over as well.
I have read similar overtures about Meeks, who I am sure is going to become a fans favourite, but I am more excited about seeing Jordan Cox; hopefully in a wide position where his pace, size and awkwardness will terrorise the opposition. Of all the forwards on Rovers books, Jordan is the one who has the most potential, IMO.
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