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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:26 am 
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the artist wrote:here's a link to the cobblers football message board. there's a couple of threads about the new team which on the whole are very positive, with quite a few declaring they will attend some of the games, and find it better to watch than union etc. i was going to post and inform them of the existence of this forum but don't really want to put them off at this early stage :D
To the RL fans who've signed up and started posting about things like licensing criteria and fan demographics etc, that's probably one of the best ways to alienate new people from the sport. It's a football message board, let them develop an interest and get into RL at their own pace.
the artist wrote:here's a link to the cobblers football message board. there's a couple of threads about the new team which on the whole are very positive, with quite a few declaring they will attend some of the games, and find it better to watch than union etc. i was going to post and inform them of the existence of this forum but don't really want to put them off at this early stage :D
To the RL fans who've signed up and started posting about things like licensing criteria and fan demographics etc, that's probably one of the best ways to alienate new people from the sport. It's a football message board, let them develop an interest and get into RL at their own pace.






King Street Cat wrote:Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:49 am 
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Starbug wrote:Well considering they currently dont exist , it isn't about changing , more about how they start , they aren't going to be competing in the same player pool are they , otherwise what would be the point of them , as surely the main point is they will expand the player pool , or so you keep telling us

So you are expecting in 15 months Northampton to rock up with 25 C1 quality players from around the Northampton area? You are expecting Northampton to operate under circumstances and limitations you expect of nobody else?

Just another example of your "im no against expansion as long as they arent allowed to actually compete with my club" standpoint.






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 Post subject: Re: A New Saints in RL?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:53 am 
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Starbug wrote:There might be a better way , so away you go , explain this better way ?

Is this the part where you have lost the argument so you pretend to be confused until you can change it? Or do you really not understand why we would use the word if?






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 Post subject: Re: A New Saints in RL?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:55 am 
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Starbug wrote:Whatever made you think we were discussing SL quality players , Northampton dont need SL quality players to compete in the Championships

The fact you specifically mentioned SL players is the reason I thought we were discussing SL players.






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 Post subject: Re: A New Saints in RL?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:12 am 
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Starbug wrote:So once again , explain your subjective totally fair system ?
well i would look at the clubs in C1 and the championship and look at what proportion of their squad was made up of players from the heartlands but not from their academies. For instance, if we look at Leigh from last season they had 11 players who had come through local SL clubs academies, or 44% of their playing squad. The Championship Salary cap is £300k, So we know that Leigh (if, for ease, we use them as the average) spend roughly £132k or an average of £12k on these players. If Northampton were to have an equal chance of competing for these players, they would (IMO) need to be paying them at least £18k, for them to even think about leaving their home towns and dragging their families across country. This would mean that as an allowance for distance, Northampton would receive a £66k or 22% increase in Salary Cap at Championship level. If they were to do this, it would still mean however, that they needed to find 14, part-time local based players to fill out a 25 man squad, which would clearly be an outstanding acheivement for an expansion side in their first few years of existance.
Quote:for it to be fair where does any club have to finish within the league structure ?
anywhere.






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 Post subject: Re: A New Saints in RL?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:37 am 
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SmokeyTA wrote:The fact you specifically mentioned SL players is the reason I thought we were discussing SL players.


No I said " the best young talent " , never mentioned SL players






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 Post subject: Re: A New Saints in RL?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:42 am 
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SmokeyTA wrote:Is this the part where you have lost the argument so you pretend to be confused until you can change it? Or do you really not understand why we would use the word if?


Sorry , I forgot about the ' If ' word , so that just falls into the same catagory as ' if ' your auntie had a dick , they'd be your uncle , but they dont , so they aren't

So you want something that doesn't exist , fantastic argument :lol:






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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity

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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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 Post subject: Re: A New Saints in RL?
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Starbug wrote:No I said " the best young talent " , never mentioned SL players

no, you said
Starbug wrote:The advantage of having SL academies on their doorstep is balanced by having SL clubs take the pick of all the best young talent available
Are you now trying to argue that the best young talent picked up by SL clubs, who play for SL clubs arent Sl players?






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 Post subject: Re: A New Saints in RL?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:48 am 
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Starbug wrote:Sorry , I forgot about the ' If ' word , so that just falls into the same catagory as ' if ' your auntie had a dick , they'd be your uncle , but they dont , so they aren't

So you want something that doesn't exist , fantastic argument :lol:

No, if you read back, you will understand. Well i hope you would, but considering the level of deliberate stupidity you have shown before i dont hold out much hope.






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 Post subject: Re: A New Saints in RL?
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SmokeyTA wrote:no, you said Are you now trying to argue that the best young talent picked up by SL clubs, who play for SL clubs arent Sl players?


Only the ones who go on to play for SL clubs on a regular basis , the others that dont aren't SL players , thats why they end up back in the Championships

What % of juniors that play Scholarship and academy at SL clubs go on to have genuine SL careers ? , it isn't the fault of Championship clubs that SL clubs cannot make the best juniors into SL players , the Championship clubs have to make do with 3/4/5 th best to produce their players without the ' facilities ' :wink: that SL clubs have available , like grass , balls and cones :lol:






kcab sfrawdder



Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity

Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike




SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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