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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:43 pm 
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Cronus wrote:They were offended by Christmas.


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El Barbudo wrote:If I could read a report with all the relevant facts in it, I'd express an opinion.
As it stands, I can't.


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Rock God X wrote:That's an odd one. Do judges never make mistakes? I'm not saying that the attack was racially motivated, and I accept that the judge had access to a lot more information than you or I, but to say the judge must be believed is just wrong. Perhaps if he had stated explicitly why he thought it wasn't (maybe he did and it wasn't reported), we could be a bit more confident either way.


There wasn't enough room in the Telegraph report for details, what with the indignation that needs to be put in too.






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 Post subject: Re: Confused
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:07 pm 
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Rock God X wrote:That's an odd one. Do judges never make mistakes? I'm not saying that the attack was racially motivated, and I accept that the judge had access to a lot more information than you or I, but to say the judge must be believed is just wrong. Perhaps if he had stated explicitly why he thought it wasn't (maybe he did and it wasn't reported), we could be a bit more confident either way.

Oh, and, I was only answering your question as to who said the attack wasn't racially motivated.


The judge must be believed because thats all we have, he/she has heard all of the evidence, will certainly have years worth of experience in the law (decades worth probably), and is appointed as worthy to judge such things.

If he/she has made a mistake then there is also a procedure to re-judge what he/she has done or said and reach the same, or a different conclusion, nothing that they state is set in stone - its the system that we have and generally speaking its a bloody good one.

I certainly wouldn't hand over the justice system to newspaper editors.






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Ovavoo wrote:Report says they are Somalians, so I'd presume Somalia.


I think you need to have a look at the UN's convention on refugees.






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I'm so outraged.






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Mild Rover wrote:watched the cctv footage earlier and it was 4 on 2 - the victim's boyfriend was with her and got in some decent retaliation, as well as missing and falling over a couple of times. He was either hammered of concussed, I assume. Very odd attack/fight - they all just stop and have a rest at one point. The boyfriend picks some tactically naive moments to switch between protecting and comforting the victim, as well.


Surprised Freddie Roach has got time to be posting on here with Amir fighting at the weekend.






If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.

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Cronus wrote:They were offended by Christmas.


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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.

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Wheels wrote:I'm so outraged.


Do you have froth at the corners of your mouth?

No?

Well I do, I am mucherer more outragered than you.






If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.

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Sandra The Terrorist wrote:Do you have froth at the corners of your mouth?

No?

Well I do, I am mucherer more outragered than you.


That might be rabies, you should get that checked out.

I'm now outraged/concerned. Is there a sliding scale anywhere?






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