ok clever clogs - first of all please explain to me (and a few others it seems) what a 'good phiz' is ?

and then please explain your theory to my good lady who has lost much of her large intestine and two thirds of her liver making eating certain things,that is things which the system finds hard to digest for various reasons...

I,on the other hand can and do eat anything,usually 'in moderation',I love my food and appreciate it,that's probably why i'm obese (ish) but don't come on here and make sweeping generalisations that make you look rather silly not to mention coming out with phrases which not common within my 'oldie' circles !

And people who have a self important pompus style as as yours, who then have to pick fault with grammar have lost the argument.

sanjunien wrote:ok clever clogs - first of all please explain to me (and a few others it seems) what a 'good phiz' is ? and then please explain your theory to my good lady who has lost much of her large intestine and two thirds of her liver making eating certain things,that is things which the system finds hard to digest for various reasons... I,on the other hand can and do eat anything,usually 'in moderation',I love my food and appreciate it,that's probably why i'm obese (ish) but don't come on here and make sweeping generalisations that make you look rather silly not to mention coming out with phrases which not common within my 'oldie' circles ! Check out this site for some basics on body shape and metabolism http://www.intense-workout.com/body_types.html good phiz is physical exercise, and it doesnt need to be sweating like a suicide bomber and blowing out of your harris, especially to lose weight. As for you wife sorry to hear of her unfortunate procedure, i wouldnt class her as mrs average when looking at her digestive system and ofcourse a special diet will be required. Enjoy your phiz

sanjunien wrote:ok clever clogs - first of all please explain to me (and a few others it seems) what a 'good phiz' is ? and then please explain your theory to my good lady who has lost much of her large intestine and two thirds of her liver making eating certain things,that is things which the system finds hard to digest for various reasons... I,on the other hand can and do eat anything,usually 'in moderation',I love my food and appreciate it,that's probably why i'm obese (ish) but don't come on here and make sweeping generalisations that make you look rather silly not to mention coming out with phrases which not common within my 'oldie' circles ! Check out this site for some basics on body shape and metabolism http://www.intense-workout.com/body_types.html good phiz is physical exercise, and it doesnt need to be sweating like a suicide bomber and blowing out of your harris, especially to lose weight. As for you wife sorry to hear of her unfortunate procedure, i wouldnt class her as mrs average when looking at her digestive system and ofcourse a special diet will be required. Enjoy your phiz

liedetector wrote:Check out this site for some basics on body shape and metabolism http://www.intense-workout.com/body_types.html good phiz is physical exercise, and it doesnt need to be sweating like a suicide bomber and blowing out of your harris, especially to lose weight. As for you wife sorry to hear of her unfortunate procedure, i wouldnt class her as mrs average when looking at her digestive system and ofcourse a special diet will be required. Enjoy your phiz thanks for the explanation at nearly 58 years of age and with very dodgy knees after nearly 40 years of physical graft the diet has become more important than the physical bit - my job gives me ample exercise but thanks or the tips.

liedetector wrote:Check out this site for some basics on body shape and metabolism http://www.intense-workout.com/body_types.html good phiz is physical exercise, and it doesnt need to be sweating like a suicide bomber and blowing out of your harris, especially to lose weight. As for you wife sorry to hear of her unfortunate procedure, i wouldnt class her as mrs average when looking at her digestive system and ofcourse a special diet will be required. Enjoy your phiz thanks for the explanation at nearly 58 years of age and with very dodgy knees after nearly 40 years of physical graft the diet has become more important than the physical bit - my job gives me ample exercise but thanks or the tips.

"A good workout" doesn't need to be in the form of an organised exercise routine, certainly doesn't need a gym, in fact I'd ban gyms altogether for someone who simply wishes to lose a little weight and feel a bit fitter (not be out of breath after walking up a slight hill for instance).

Cycling 15 miles a day to/from work (total mileage) lost me a stone in six weeks which is unsustainable but welcome at the same time, more importantly I started to feel fit again and yet was still 16 stone - since buying a car for the winter I have maintained the current weight but am now missing the cycling and seriously thinking of leaving the car behind three days a week and getting some rain on my face again, it certainly wakes you up in a morning.

What is it with you old folk and your attitude to gyms? There is absolutely nothing wrong with training in a gym - it can and does work for a lot of people. Even if you just take cardiovascular exercise, some people prefer to exercise indoors. But, as I said earlier, the benefits of resistance training are many, and it could easily be argued that this form of training is best/most safely carried out in a gym.

I'd rather see a ban on the sale of home exercise equipment and those bloody stupid "Slendertone" things.

I have a long-held view that the value or usefullness of any item is in inverse proportion to the numbers seen at car boot sales. That's why every other stall has a Reebok Step, step machine, cross trainer, rowing machine, exercise bike and/or breadmaker/smoothymaker for sale

with respect,I don't know how old you are (20/30s ?) but age does make a difference - my ma in law is 80 and is as fit as a fiddle - she's had a busy life both worrking and domestic though not overly 'physical' - i'm 22 years younger and have always done physical graft and certain body parts get worn believe it or not and the gym or any kind of physical work out is the last thing I want to do - my work keeps me physically strong and I do it despite the aches and pains - twenty years ago or even ten years ago I could have done the regular physical stuff now my body doesn't allow it - i'mhanging on as long as posible before having a total knee replacement because I know that will effectively end my present job and the chances of finding any other work at my age will be impossible

oh,to be younger...

That's an odd viewpoint, if I may be so bold. If you surveyed those sections of society who are members of gyms, and compared them to those who are not, the percentage who are overweight or obese would, I'd suggest, be markedly lower in the former group.

So, whilst it could be argued that a 'rising gym culture' hasn't prevented the obesity epidemic, it's also fairly obvious that the epidemic could have been even worse if it wasn't for people using gyms (or taking other forms of exercise).

Your argument is akin to saying food aid doesn't stop famine because there are still people dying of starvation. And whilst you'd be right that more fundamental steps could/should be taken to prevent famine on a more widespread scale, there's no arguing that the food aid hasn't been beneficial to those who have received it.

But you didn't announce yourself on here having a go a me for being a 'self-declared nutritional expert'? Glass houses and stones, sunshine.

And now it seems that you're addressing the issues like a sort of exercise fundamentalist who thinks everyone should eat and exercise like some sort of sports pro. See San J's comments.