Post subject: Re: james graham will get battered in the nrl
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:22 pm
Cronus
Club Coach
Joined: Jan 30 2005 Posts: 7152 Location: one day closer to death
Walter Neff wrote:The thing that Pi$$es me off about this is there are a lot of *Fans* out there are hoping he will get *Battered*,,FFS,,the bloke gave his his all in the WCC and for Saints this season..Now he is trying his luck in the NRL next season which,lets face it,is a Big Step Up from Superleague and still the knockers want to hope he gets hammered..The Mind Boggles at you Lot Honestley!!!!!...The guy is English..Lets hope he makes his mark over there...
I don't anyone 'wants' him to get battered, but some are doubting whether he can transfer to the NRL with any great success.
I've based my opinion on the games I've seen him play - in the high tempo intensity of big games when he's looked tired and broken, when his back and other problems have clearly taken their toll. He's been doing too much for too long and it's shown, and I wonder whether he can raise to the week-in, week-out intensity and speed of the NRL. Of course better conditioning and coaching will help, so we'll see.
I hope he does well, I really do, but I have some doubts, that's all.
Post subject: Re: james graham will get battered in the nrl
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:47 pm
SaintsFan
Club Coach
Joined: Jul 22 2008 Posts: 16170 Location: Somewhere other than here
BillyRhino wrote:Perhaps a new country, new challenge, new season will spark up the Jammer of old.
That's his quoted reason for going: to freshen him up. He was getting stale and he wanted a new challenge. He's got himself one.
He wasn't at his best during 2011 except in the Wigan games when he was ferocious. If the Bulldogs get Jammer with his Wigan mindset in place then they will have a belter of a prop.
Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill)
Post subject: Re: james graham will get battered in the nrl
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:25 pm
cjhatesunion
Player Coach
Joined: Mar 11 2010 Posts: 2786 Location: St.Helens
Walter Neff wrote:The thing that Pi$$es me off about this is there are a lot of *Fans* out there are hoping he will get *Battered*,,FFS,,the bloke gave his his all in the WCC and for Saints this season..Now he is trying his luck in the NRL next season which,lets face it,is a Big Step Up from Superleague and still the knockers want to hope he gets hammered..The Mind Boggles at you Lot Honestley!!!!!...The guy is English..Lets hope he makes his mark over there...
Well said mate.
I don't get this Graham bashing at all,I know he played for my club but in all honesty if he played for Wigan I would still rate the guy highly.He is a machine who will do alright in the NRL,less games and probably less game time on the pitch says to me we will see the Jammer of a couple of years ago,immense.
Post subject: Re: james graham will get battered in the nrl
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:31 pm
billypop
International Chairman
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 3115
Cronus wrote:I don't anyone 'wants' him to get battered, but some are doubting whether he can transfer to the NRL with any great success.
I've based my opinion on the games I've seen him play - in the high tempo intensity of big games when he's looked tired and broken, when his back and other problems have clearly taken their toll. He's been doing too much for too long and it's shown, and I wonder whether he can raise to the week-in, week-out intensity and speed of the NRL. Of course better conditioning and coaching will help, so we'll see.
I hope he does well, I really do, but I have some doubts, that's all.
James Graham will do well in the NRL as long as he stays fit.
Post subject: Re: james graham will get battered in the nrl
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:16 pm
GSF
Player Coach
Joined: Apr 10 2007 Posts: 997
Cronus wrote:I don't anyone 'wants' him to get battered, but some are doubting whether he can transfer to the NRL with any great success.
I've based my opinion on the games I've seen him play - in the high tempo intensity of big games when he's looked tired and broken, when his back and other problems have clearly taken their toll. He's been doing too much for too long and it's shown, and I wonder whether he can raise to the week-in, week-out intensity and speed of the NRL. Of course better conditioning and coaching will help, so we'll see.
I hope he does well, I really do, but I have some doubts, that's all.
I agree Cronus.I wish Graham the very best in Aus but I think he peaked around four years ago.He just looks full of puff these days and has lost all power.His taking of the short ball three meters from the try line before turning in the tackle won't wash down under.
GSF wrote:I agree Cronus.I wish Graham the very best in Aus but I think he peaked around four years ago.He just looks full of puff these days and has lost all power.His taking of the short ball three meters from the try line before turning in the tackle won't wash down under.
Graham finished the season with lower back trouble. He should really have missed the end of the season, but being Jammer he said hell no.
He won't destroy the NRL and I just hope the Canterbury fans know what they are getting. i.e not a player like Sam Burgess who'll absolutely smash a player in a spectacular big hit, then do nothing for the rest of the game and finish with 60m made. Instead he'll give them the RL version of the duracell bunny.
The only thing that could potentially limit Jammer in Aus is the sun. Cliched I know, but look at the man. He's white as snow and bright ginger. Those people are not designed to be burned in the sun. He'll have to apply factor 50 constantly.
Post subject: Re: james graham will get battered in the nrl
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:50 am
CGD
Club Coach
Joined: May 19 2005 Posts: 2154
Not sure why i've waited 6 pages to comment. Maybe because I enjoy the in-house bickering to an extent. But I have no doubt Graham will be an excellent player in the NRL. I was actually more impressed with him this Four Nations than in past internationals. He really carried the English pack this year.
The Australian winter sun has been known to burn people of his complexion though, that much is no joke. It's funny, but reality.
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