Joined: Oct 01 2007 Posts: 122 Location: North Wales / Spain
Wow, can't believe this. One of my heros. I remember meeting him as a child, when he used to come and do his bit for welsh football by watching my local team Colwyn Bay.
Joined: Mar 15 2002 Posts: 12792 Location: Leeds 13
I'd not had the TV on most of yesterday morning so when my flatmate texted "Have you seen about Gary Speed?", my first thought was that he'd resigned / been sacked - nothing like what had actually happened. After turning on the TV, my jaw just dropped.
I was about 9/10 when I started watching Leeds United and Gary was one of my favourite players. He was a gifted player, an honest player and someone who seemed to always have time for the fans (I seem to remember being on one of Leeds United's soccer camps in the school holidays and Speed making an apperance). I just couldn't believe that, at 42, one of my boyhood heroes had gone.
I know a lot more about mental health problems that I'd like to and I can't begin to imagine what Gary was going through to do what he did or what his family are going through now. If it is a long term thing, then it is common for people to try and "mask" the problem, especially for someone who is in both a relatively "macho" environment and someone who is in the public eye and pressured into giving off the "right" image. If this has come about because of press intrusion.... I don't want to post what I think of those responsible.
At a time when so many professional footballers are, to be frank, complete c**ks, it is easy to forget about good people like Gary Speed.
Quote:I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls
Quote:Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.
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Reading the papers today you would never know that a soldier was killed in action yesterday.
A wealthy ex footballer who it would appear had everything kills himself and it steals the headlines. Sad I will accept but is it worthy of the front page.
It's easy to bag the press, but they wouldn't do it if there wasn't demand for it. Celebrity scandals sell papers bizarely. The longer people continue to buy such rubbish, the longer they'll keep churning it up.
wire quin wrote:Reading the papers today you would never know that a soldier was killed in action yesterday.
A wealthy ex footballer who it would appear had everything kills himself and it steals the headlines. Sad I will accept but is it worthy of the front page.
It is generally accepted that some soldiers will lose their lives in conflict. That is not to trivialise it, of course, but it is an expected outcome for a percentage of troops on active service. Generally speaking, it is not expected that successful, outwardly happy young men will take their own lives. The fact that he was a famous footballer/manager makes it more newsworthy (though no more tragic) than had it been an unknown member of the public.
Christianity: because you're so awful you made God kill himself.
Joined: May 25 2006 Posts: 8893 Location: Garth's Darkplace.
Saddened! wrote:It's easy to bag the press, but they wouldn't do it if there wasn't demand for it. Celebrity scandals sell papers bizarely. The longer people continue to buy such rubbish, the longer they'll keep churning it up.
I actually don't think that's the case. I think people buy what they are given to buy and what they are told to buy. Nobody really sat around 50 years ago with an unidentified, unfulfilled craving for Z list celebrity gossip eating away at their soul. If it all went away tomorrow and never came back we wouldn't miss it at all.
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Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
wire quin wrote:Reading the papers today you would never know that a soldier was killed in action yesterday.
A wealthy ex footballer who it would appear had everything kills himself and it steals the headlines. Sad I will accept but is it worthy of the front page.
Any number of other people will have died yesterday too. Some by their own hand, others through violent acts and still others by natural causes.
Maybe we should rewind 100 years or so and print classifieds on the front page?
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