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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:12 pm 
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Even though not sworn statements, the witness statements of Steve Coogan and Hugh Grant here make for interesting reading, as I'm sure the others do.

Coogan claims the press have gained details of his cash machine withdrawals and Grant that the press have obtained details of late night emergency hospital visits (including his condition).

The more this goes on, the deeper and more disgusting the rabbit hole gets.
Even though not sworn statements, the witness statements of Steve Coogan and Hugh Grant here make for interesting reading, as I'm sure the others do.

Coogan claims the press have gained details of his cash machine withdrawals and Grant that the press have obtained details of late night emergency hospital visits (including his condition).

The more this goes on, the deeper and more disgusting the rabbit hole gets.






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McLaren_Field wrote:If a rulebook is needed after this enquiry then they could do worse than to go to Katie Price and ask her to write it, if anyone knows how to whore themselves to the media whilst applying double standards to how much access they can have to a disabled son, then its her.

The rules will change from week to week of course dependant on how many womens trash mags you've managed to blag your way onto.
Exactly.
Miller, Mosely, Rowling, Coogar, etc,etc have done nothing other than being successful.
They haven't courted the press like Katie Pric....Jorda...Katie Pr...Jord...Katie Price has so how anyone can then think they are allowed to be a target because they are good at what they do it baffling.

Both Mosely and Coogan have made the same point.
That being that they took the press on because they were able to and because others are not so lucky, Sounds a very sound and ethical stance to me.






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Mintball wrote:I would never, ever excuse the people you mention – and quite a few more. But quite serious question: do you think that we, as consumers, have no ethical responsibility to consider what it is that we buy?


Prior to this story breaking, what ethical grounds did NoTW readers have to make them reconsider their purchase?

The "fake Sheikh" stuff one could argue was primarily public interest - corruption in sport, people using their positions to sell access to others etc. Sure there were also plenty of kiss and tell stories, but no reason to suspect that these were being offered up on anything other than a voluntary basis by those seeking to profit from them.

Outside of those in the trade, could any of the purchasers of NoTW have had even the vaguest inkling of the subterfuge being undertaken by its employees and consultants?






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Andy Gilder wrote:Prior to this story breaking, what ethical grounds did NoTW readers have to make them reconsider their purchase?


The invasion of someone else's private life for their amusement.

Andy Gilder wrote:The "fake Sheikh" stuff one could argue was primarily public interest - corruption in sport, people using their positions to sell access to others etc. Sure there were also plenty of kiss and tell stories, but no reason to suspect that these were being offered up on anything other than a voluntary basis by those seeking to profit from them...


I also remember 'ordinary' people having their stories splashed across the pages of the rags. And then stories like Mosley's, for which there was no public interest justification.

Are you really suggesting that, because stories in the public interest have been published, the titillation and the invasions of privacy (which, I suggest, far outweigh the former) is acceptable – or even that you cannot have one without the other?

Andy Gilder wrote:Outside of those in the trade, could any of the purchasers of NoTW have had even the vaguest inkling of the subterfuge being undertaken by its employees and consultants?


Forget that. There is the invasion of someone else's private life for the amusement of the buyer – irrespective of the means used to gather the information. If you want to be slightly more philosophically complex, there's the commoditisation of private life. Are you suggesting that all NOTW readers were too thick to consider such things?

This morning was good again – a 21-year-old woman chased down streets at night by a pack of 10 men with cameras. Legal. And nice.






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Mintball wrote:This morning was good again – a 21-year-old woman chased down streets at night by a pack of 10 men with cameras. Legal. And nice.


I think the most damning thing about Sienna Miller's testimony is the point she made about the effect it had with her and those closest to her, with her accusing them of selling stories. Never mind the picture out of context, but the effect that the actions of the paparazzi have reaches far beyond the subject of the stories/scoops/bullshst to completely innocent people whose only mistake is to be close to someone.






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Ski wrote:I think the most damning thing about Sienna Miller's testimony is the point she made about the effect it had with her and those closest to her, with her accusing them of selling stories. Never mind the picture out of context, but the effect that the actions of the paparazzi have reaches far beyond the subject of the stories/scoops/bullshst to completely innocent people whose only mistake is to be close to someone.


Indeed.

And on the same theme, Max Mosely is certainly convinced that the actions of the NOTW (and subsequent media orgy) were contributory factors in the subsequent death of his son. Indeed, when he attended his son's funeral, he was mobbed by the gutter press.






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Well it seems the Pap's and the papers who buy their trashy pictures really are thick.
Just as she left the Leveson inquiry JK Rowling is chased down the street by camera wielding nutjobs.
Irony as a concept really is beyond these scumbags isn't it.

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Anakin Skywalker wrote:... You really couldn't make it up.


Oh, they do that all the time. :wink:






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