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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:10 pm 
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headhunter wrote:Like I said, look at the squad lists that I posted earlier in this thread. Better players=better performances, regardless of the coach. International coaching can stop poor coaches from being exposed to an extent because there are so many other factors that play a part in a national side's performance. Harris looked like a reasonable coach coming out of this 4N but in reality he's far from it. England can persist with McNamara for as long as they like and claim that he's 'improving team ethos' or whatever as much as they want, but they will never beat Australia or win a tournament with McNamara in charge because tactically he's way, way out of his depth. In fact I think this was probably his best chance, since I can't envisage NZ being anywhere near as weak in future years.


Who would you bring in then as coach?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:21 pm 
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rafsanjhani wrote:Yes i think hes the bloke still for the job honestly i thin it has to be said tonights dire performance was way more down to lame individual performance on the field rather than McNamara's tactics.Although admitidley one or 2 team choices have come back to haunt us i just knew Sinfield was gonna stink ellend road out hes useless for England kicking is abhorrant Back to McNamara as i had previously said he will have a greater pool of players either who are now injured or untried ie lomax mossop gaskell
ps BROUGH surely couldnt have been worse than sinfield


Tonite was about the team pal not one player get a grip ffs

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:23 pm 
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Loyal Leeds Fan wrote:Who would you bring in then as coach?
Impossible to say really given that I don't know who's available and would be willing to do the job.






King Street Cat wrote:Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:29 pm 
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rhinogonemad wrote:Tonite was about the team pal not one player get a grip ffs
yeah .........i ............know thats why im defending mcnamara as coach NOT the team there were a few players who were inept tonight not upset your loyal leeds sensibilities i thought hall was very good and overall had an excellent series but sinfield in his position is given the responsibility of marshalling the players around and giving the team territory or attack your right though i take it back i shouldnt single out one player so get rid of peacock hes a shadow of himself jjb bloody liability

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:35 pm 
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headhunter wrote:Impossible to say really given that I don't know who's available and would be willing to do the job.
So on the basis of your answer it would be a fools errand going through the process of getting a new coach with wc 2 years off.?On that premise McNamaras is best man for the job plus i dont think your entirely confident there are that many available,up to or willing to take the job

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:48 pm 
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rafsanjhani wrote:So on the basis of your answer it would be a fools errand going through the process of getting a new coach with wc 2 years off.?On that premise McNamaras is best man for the job plus i dont think your entirely confident there are that many available,up to or willing to take the job
I never claimed that I had a replacement lined up, although I struggle to believe that there aren't better options available than McNamara. Even if that's the case though, it doesn't mean that he's good enough for the job.






King Street Cat wrote:Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:59 pm 
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headhunter wrote:I never claimed that I had a replacement lined up, although I struggle to believe that there aren't better options available than McNamara. Even if that's the case though, it doesn't mean that he's good enough for the job.
It would be fickle to assume whoever is in the england selection panel hasnt got a clue when it comes to proccessing who gets the job from quite a few applicants.and based upon what they heard what he(mcnamara) offered they felt he was the bloke for the job.this team 'ethos' which i keep bangin on about is essential for whole structure of england mcnamaras worked tirelessly to bring it together it wasnt a 2 year plan culminating in this particualr 4n series.anyway WHO WOULD YOU PICK ?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:34 am 
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rafsanjhani wrote: WHO WOULD YOU PICK ?

Shaun Edwards
Ellery Hanley
Graham Murray

any of those would do me.






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NRL expansion? Sometime soon, maybe......

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:59 pm 
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Well, in addition to his piss-poor record at Bradford so far McNamara's international record against Aus and Nz is P5 W1 L4 (won 0/3 v Aus).

I believe Tony Smith's was P9 W4 L5 (won 0/3 v Aus), and Brian Noble's was P12 W5 L7 (won 2/6 v Aus).

Based on this I think I'll continue to be a McNamara "whinger & basher".

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:26 pm 
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McNamara looks to have got us well organised off the field but sadly the on field organisation was a shambles last night. There was a total lack of direction from the halves and their inability to get Sam Tomkins involved close to the Aussie line was criminal with them constantly hitting Wilkin and Ellis with short balls instead of using our number one attacking weapon on the loop.

The Aussies don't do anything special really. They're supremely organised and my own club Wigan tried to copy that style for the past 2 years. We were accused of being boring but it's simplicity and organisation is supreme. We could never claim to have mastered it like the Aussies have but it's like clockwork watching everyone knowing their roles to a tee and pulling off the timing.

We looked like an under 8's side in comparison.

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