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 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:39 pm 
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Kiwi Shane wrote:The simple answer is in the simple reply I gave above.

Hall was still in control of the ball after Thurstons high challenge. Therefore no penalty try.

You have got to be on a wind up. If you really believe Thurstons attack on Hall had no impact on His attempt to ground the ball then you really are hard of thinking.

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 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:40 pm 
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Cronus wrote:Or alternatively, read the actual laws of the game.


Yup. I was willing Hall to score as much as anybody, but that doesn't make it a correct call. Throw in the Chris Lawrence "try" & I was wondering if Steve Mac was the video ref.






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 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:41 pm 
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So no penalties should be given if the player remains in control of the ball?
You're just trolling!

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 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:42 pm 
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Kiwi Shane wrote:It was a clear high shot but definitely not a penalty try. If anything Hall milked it like Westwood did the other week.

We won't agree on this one, the video ref (in my opinion) got it wrong (the same as he got the Aussie no try call wrong on 20 mins)

Lets move on.


So because Thurston didn't hit him hard enough it wasn't a penalty ?

So what is hard enough ? , broken nose ? , how many lost teeth constitutes a tackle hard enough to be a penalty ?

Once again , how close to the line is it ok to deliberately smack somebody in the face , and it not to be a penalty ?

FFA , answer a simple bloody question , I know generally Kiwis aren't the cleverest people , but for christs sake , it isn't rocket science






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 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:42 pm 
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dkw wrote:You have got to be on a wind up. If you really believe Thurstons attack on Hall had no impact on His attempt to ground the ball then you really are hard of thinking.


He is a wind up.

He makes it sound like there was an age between Thurston's challenge and Hall's attempted grounding. Watch it in real time, it's no time at all. Hall lost the ball because of the challenge to the head.

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 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:50 pm 
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Mark_W wrote:He is a wind up.

He makes it sound like there was an age between Thurston's challenge and Hall's attempted grounding. Watch it in real time, it's no time at all. Hall lost the ball because of the challenge to the head.


He was still in control after Thurstons high shot. Therefore it was NOT a penalty try.

I think we could disagree about this all day. So lets not. You think it was. I think it wasn't. The Aussie media thought it wasn't. The video ref thought it was. He gave the try. Thats all that matters really. It was irrelevent anyway as the Aussies comfortably beat you.

AGAIN.

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 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:53 pm 
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Kiwi Shane wrote:He was still in control after Thurstons high shot. Therefore it was NOT a penalty try.

I think we could disagree about this all day. So lets not. You think it was. I think it wasn't. The Aussie media thought it wasn't. The video ref thought it was. He gave the try. Thats all that matters really. It was irrelevent anyway as the Aussies comfortably beat you.

AGAIN.

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:roll:

Do you have to lose the ball to be awarded a head high tackle penalty?

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 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:58 pm 
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Mark_W wrote::roll:

Do you have to lose the ball to be awarded a head high tackle penalty?



The question here is whether it was a penalty TRY not a penalty!

Arrrrgh this is just going round in circles. No penalty try for me for the reasons I've stated earlier. I'm not making any further comments on the thread!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:59 pm 
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Kiwi Shane wrote:He was still in control after Thurstons high shot. Therefore it was NOT a penalty try.

I think we could disagree about this all day. So lets not. You think it was. I think it wasn't. The Aussie media thought it wasn't. The video ref thought it was. He gave the try. Thats all that matters really. It was irrelevent anyway as the Aussies comfortably beat you.

AGAIN.

:WAVE:


You keep mentioning the Ausie media as if to recruit their opinions to validate your stance but who cares what they think, they're a set of the most one eyed, hypocritical, jingoistic bigots I've ever had the misfortune to listen to.






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 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:12 pm 
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Kiwi Shane wrote:The question here is whether it was a penalty TRY not a penalty!

Arrrrgh this is just going round in circles. No penalty try for me for the reasons I've stated earlier. I'm not making any further comments on the thread!!!

:BEAT:


Kiwi's , not clever ? , perhaps yes

Kiwi's , bottle out of a lost argument , never thought I'd see that






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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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