FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home The Virtual Terrace Penalty Try



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 106 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 11  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:23 am 
Player Coach
Fringe Player
User avatar

Joined: Jan 17 2009
Posts: 501
I thought of this yesterday when Thurston gave away a penalty when Hall was in the process of scoring. If you give away a Penalty in the process of a opposition player scoring a try it should be a straight red card just like the last man rule in football. Thoughts






www.giantssupporters.co.uk


HGRL ON TOUR

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Penalty Trt
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:28 am 
Club Coach
Club Captain

Joined: Oct 12 2004
Posts: 4142
Location: SouthStand
I don't think it was worthy of a red card.

Having said that, if Tony Williams, Issac Luke or Jeremy Smith aren't sent off I don't know what is a red card.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:33 am 
Player Coach
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Jun 23 2008
Posts: 1213
A "Penalty try" should be awarded when an act of foul play prevents a player from scoring a certain try.
Australian commentators were up in arms with the decision.
Thurstons clumsy attempt did not prevent Halls try.
He was passed the Thurston's high shot and still in control of the ball, it was Luke Lewis's knees that knocked the ball from Halls hands.
It should have been a penalty against Australia.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:34 am 
Player Coach
First Team Player

Joined: Feb 27 2007
Posts: 2490
Not a red card for me, but if Hall had got the ball down it would have been a chance of an 8 point try as he would have been fouled in the act of scoreing.


Last edited by Beverley red on Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:38 am 
Player Coach
First Team Player

Joined: Feb 27 2007
Posts: 2490
Jonesy wrote:A "Penalty try" should be awarded when an act of foul play prevents a player from scoring a certain try.
Australian commentators were up in arms with the decision.
Thurstons clumsy attempt did not prevent Halls try.
He was passed the Thurston's high shot and still in control of the ball, it was Luke Lewis's knees that knocked the ball from Halls hands.
It should have been a penalty against Australia.


I would sugest that Thurstans high shot made Hall loosen his grip on the ball as well as lifting his body up (had the tackle not been high Hall would have been closer to the floor & the line) so the following tackler could knock the ball out!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:45 am 
Player Coach
Fringe Player
User avatar

Joined: Jan 17 2009
Posts: 501
Well not just that incident last night, but overall it should be looked at. For the record I don't care what the Australian commentators think.






www.giantssupporters.co.uk


HGRL ON TOUR

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:45 am 
Player Coach
Academy Player

Joined: Apr 07 2010
Posts: 331
Location: headingley.... (i class it as missionary work)
Jonesy wrote:A "Penalty try" should be awarded when an act of foul play prevents a player from scoring a certain try.
Australian commentators were up in arms with the decision.
Thurstons clumsy attempt did not prevent Halls try.
He was passed the Thurston's high shot and still in control of the ball, it was Luke Lewis's knees that knocked the ball from Halls hands.
It should have been a penalty against Australia.

i think if he hadnt been fouled by thurston and tackled legally he would have got the ball down before the knees came flying across. i would like to point out that you cant dive in with your knees either which luke lewis has done, even if unintentional.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:49 am 
Moderator
Moderator

Joined: Mar 01 2002
Posts: 39710
Eaton wrote:I thought of this yesterday when Thurston gave away a penalty when Hall was in the process of scoring. If you give away a Penalty in the process of a opposition player scoring a try it should be a straight red card just like the last man rule in football. Thoughts



i'm sure i got told a few years ago, you can't giev a penalty try and send the offender off, thats punishing the offending team twice, though isn't that what happened to raynor earlier this year?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:50 am 
Player Coach
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Jun 23 2008
Posts: 1213
did he dive in with the knees?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Penalty Try
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:57 am 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Mar 09 2004
Posts: 33944
Location: watching out for low flying geese
It's simple , Thurston made a deliberate attempt at Ryan Halls head , it wasn't a ' slip up from the shoulders ' , Ryan is taller than Thurston , it wasn't ' clumsy , or accidental ' , it was deliberate , and it was to stop him scoring a try , so are we a sport ? or is it ultimate fighting ?

The second player in could be construed as accidental , there is doubt which should be considered

So defiantly a penalty try , and possibly a red card , a few years ago a player got red carded for a deliberate high tackle within the first few seconds of a match , the tackle last night was exactly the same , the result should have been the same

It wasn't quite simply because the referee was too scared to send the player off , and this will continue as long as the Australian sports governing body are vindictive to anybody that doesn't do what they want , any NRL referee giving that type of decision would very soon lose their job in the NRL

It really is quite pathetic






kcab sfrawdder



Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity

Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike




SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 106 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 11  Next





It is currently Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:38 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 45 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:38 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0s
Recruitment rumours and links
Or thane
3492
2s
Film game
karetaker
5073
4s
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
62962
8s
Transfer Talk V5
Once were Lo
400
45s
England vs Samoa
Choc Ice
118
51s
Rumours thread
PopTart
2494
1m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40479
1m
2025 Season tickets
Trojan Horse
154
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2540
1m
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Jack Burton
81
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Deadcowboys1
1
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
Benny Profan
12
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
The Speculat
28
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
Rugby Raider
80
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
29
TODAY
The Aussies are coming
PopTart
19
TODAY
England Beat Samoa Comfortably In First Test
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
England v Samoa
Captain Hook
33
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
484
England's Women Demolish The W..
453
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
761
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
583
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
854
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1355
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1583
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1852
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1431
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1706
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2077
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1640
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1733
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1851
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2046
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024 3 England M34-16Samoa M
WINT2024 2 ENGLAND W82-0WALES W
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0s
Recruitment rumours and links
Or thane
3492
2s
Film game
karetaker
5073
4s
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
62962
8s
Transfer Talk V5
Once were Lo
400
45s
England vs Samoa
Choc Ice
118
51s
Rumours thread
PopTart
2494
1m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40479
1m
2025 Season tickets
Trojan Horse
154
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2540
1m
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Jack Burton
81
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Deadcowboys1
1
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
Benny Profan
12
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
The Speculat
28
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
Rugby Raider
80
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
29
TODAY
The Aussies are coming
PopTart
19
TODAY
England Beat Samoa Comfortably In First Test
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
England v Samoa
Captain Hook
33
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
484
England's Women Demolish The W..
453
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
761
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
583
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
854
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1355
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1583
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1852
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1431
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1706
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2077
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1640
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1733
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1851
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2046


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.