Post subject: Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:16 pm
cod'ead
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McLaren_Field wrote:...or,
You buy something and pay 100% of the price by using 33% of the asset to pay for itself, leaving you with only 66%, and then you think you've got a bargain ?
Not only that but the seller thinks they got a bargain too because until they sold it to you they owned 200% of it.
I haven't just fallen down a rabbit hole have I ?
Isn't that how most soccer clubs are financed?
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Post subject: Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:24 pm
cod'ead
International Chairman
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McLaren_Field wrote:<snip>
In fact I've got an idea.
I should be able to tog you out with a decent Savile Row bespoke suit, Ede & Ravenscroft or Hilditch & Key shirt, a pair of Cheaney or Barkers and I've got some Canali ties knocking around to top it off. If we divvy up what loose change we've got and what we can find down the back of the sofa, we should be ablt to punt on the RBS or Lloyds giveaway. Might be a problem if we get invited to Mansion House though, I've only got one Kilgour, French & Stanbury white tie ensemble
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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Post subject: Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:16 pm
McLaren_Field
International Chairman
Joined: Feb 26 2002 Posts: 32466 Location: Leeds
cod'ead wrote:In fact I've got an idea.
I should be able to tog you out with a decent Savile Row bespoke suit, Ede & Ravenscroft or Hilditch & Key shirt, a pair of Cheaney or Barkers and I've got some Canali ties knocking around to top it off. If we divvy up what loose change we've got and what we can find down the back of the sofa, we should be ablt to punt on the RBS or Lloyds giveaway. Might be a problem if we get invited to Mansion House though, I've only got one Kilgour, French & Stanbury white tie ensemble
Well I'm normally a strictly a jeans and rugby shirt (heavy cotton only) sort of bloke these days but you can introduce me as a Richard Branson sort of chap, tell you what I have got in the wardrobe though - a couple of Newcastle Falcons shirts with Northern Rock plastered all over the front of them - that'll help won't it ?
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Post subject: Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:19 pm
McLaren_Field
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Diavolo Rosso wrote:I'd be interested to see what exactly has been left on the Government balance sheet in this. Given that NRs main problem was its funding structure rather than its assets, I wouldn't have thought what the Government has been left with is actually that bad quality.
From what I remember of TV programmes made after Nthn Rocks demise three (four?) years ago their asset sheet was very healthy (being a traditional sort of building society) until they took on bank status and started trading in all sorts of pieces of American debt - from what I recall Nthn Rock were left holding the parcels when the music stopped, albeit that they still had a very "safe" side of the asset book left over from the good old days.
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Post subject: Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:26 pm
cod'ead
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McLaren_Field wrote:From what I remember of TV programmes made after Nthn Rocks demise three (four?) years ago their asset sheet was very healthy (being a traditional sort of building society) until they took on bank status and started trading in all sorts of pieces of American debt - from what I recall Nthn Rock were left holding the parcels when the music stopped, albeit that they still had a very "safe" side of the asset book left over from the good old days.
Don't tell me, let me guess which bit Branson walks away with and which bit we get stuffed with.
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cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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Post subject: Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:34 pm
cod'ead
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McLaren_Field wrote:I don't know but I do know that in a drawer upstairs I have two building society account books, both with a few quid still "invested" in them.
One is Northern Rock and the other is Bradford & Bingley.
Form a queue if you want some more of my marvellous financial advice.
After the pensions fiasco? No ta
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Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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Post subject: Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:17 pm
McLaren_Field
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Joined: Feb 26 2002 Posts: 32466 Location: Leeds
...and the ISA's, invest ten grand in ISA's and five years later get ten grand back, having had to wait five years for them to climb their way back to ten grand.
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Post subject: Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:29 am
tb
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Amazing, isn't it, how banks and building socs started offering traditional savings accounts, with an interest rate (albeit below current inflation, by and large) after 2008?
Before then, they'd been as rare as hens' teeth, and your only real 'savings' option was an investment ISA...
Post subject: Re: Virgin Money acquires Northern Rock
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:35 am
McLaren_Field
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Joined: Feb 26 2002 Posts: 32466 Location: Leeds
tb wrote:Amazing, isn't it, how banks and building socs started offering traditional savings accounts, with an interest rate (albeit below current inflation, by and large) after 2008?
Before then, they'd been as rare as hens' teeth, and your only real 'savings' option was an investment ISA...
It was also around that time that NatWest stopped sending around their "Personal Financial Advisor", I think at that point even they had to own up to the fact that most "Financial Advice" is far better garnered from a ouija board, which is apparently how they had been doing it up until then.
They've confirmed that this year by selling the whole of their pensions division to Aviva, NatWest having apparently decided that they don't want to do investments any more, which begs the question, what the fook do they do ?
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