FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home The Sin Bin State Sponsored Slavery



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 354 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 ... 36  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: State Sponsored Slavery
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:46 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Aug 14 2005
Posts: 14302
Location: On the Death Star Awaiting Luke.
Standee wrote:presumably she can spell it?
Well that told me.
Pedantic as usual eh!

Standee wrote:there are jobs, plenty of them, just people aren't prepared to change their wage demands and change location, much better to bleat on the internet all day.
I would work for £5 an hour matey.
My wife has a full time job so how in the blue hell do we change location?
The house prices in Hull mean I can easily move wherever I want (Oh wait) and the cost of fuel means communting is so affordable :roll: .
So yes there are plenty of jobs as long as you are willing to travel miles to get to them for £5 an hour with child care to pay for.
I can see a slight problem with those figures.
Still at least Standee got to sound in the know again!






If you only knew the POWER of the dark side.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: State Sponsored Slavery
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:48 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Aug 14 2005
Posts: 14302
Location: On the Death Star Awaiting Luke.
McLaren_Field wrote:Have you tried any of the agencies ?

The company I work for can't keep up with the demand for our product from most of the large staff agencies in the UK, I know its not secure work etc etc but they seem to be booming at the moment and there is a sneaky feeling that they are sucking away all of the genuine job opportunities for temporary placements.
I have the words 'Cannot guarantee work' alongside childcare costs present a slight problem though.






If you only knew the POWER of the dark side.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: State Sponsored Slavery
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:49 pm 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels

Joined: Apr 03 2003
Posts: 37503
Anakin Skywalker wrote:Well that told me.
Pedantic as usual eh!

I would work for £5 an hour matey.
My wife has a full time job so how in the blue hell do we change location?
The house prices in Hull mean I can easily move wherever I want (Oh wait) and the cost of fuel means communting is so affordable :roll: .
So yes there are plenty of jobs as long as you are willing to travel miles to get to them for £5 an hour with child care to pay for.
I can see a slight problem with those figures.
Still at least Standee got to sound in the know again!


your family doesn't have to change location YOU CAN, I've done it numerous times, go to where the work is.

actually no, you're right, far easier to sit on the PC moaning how the world owes you a living.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: State Sponsored Slavery
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:51 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Aug 14 2005
Posts: 14302
Location: On the Death Star Awaiting Luke.
Dally wrote:There are jobs, certainly in SE England. My son has worked in a supermarket for a couple of years and is due to take up a professional career in January. His girlfriend has a job. He helped get his mate a job where he currently works. I had an email from a youngish chap this morning saying he's handed in his notice and is moving to a firm closer to home.They are examples just from very direct recent personal experience.
So I am to go and get a job in SE England which means I need to get digs (extra cost) as my wife has a fulltime job?
Or perhaps she can quit her job so we can all move so I can work in a supermarket?






If you only knew the POWER of the dark side.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: State Sponsored Slavery
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:51 pm 
All Time Great
All Time Great
User avatar

Joined: May 10 2002
Posts: 47951
Location: Die Metropole
Standee wrote:your family doesn't have to change location YOU CAN, I've done it numerous times, go to where the work is...


And how did your wife and children - your family life - work then?

I appreciate that family is only a sound bite these days, so I'm curious about your own experience.

Did you find that you and your wife's combined incomes could cover additional accommodation, for instance? Did your readiness to accept lower wages impact at all on your wife and children?






"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller

"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

The Voluptuous Manifesto – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: State Sponsored Slavery
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:52 pm 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Feb 26 2002
Posts: 32466
Location: Leeds
Standee wrote:but that is the thing, the majority of the perpetually unemployed think they should be able to get a job just around the corner from their house, on hours to suit them at a minimum of £22k a year

it's time we removed benefits for those that can work but wont, and give the money saved to those that would work but genuinelt cant.


Frankly, that is pure bollax.

Straight out of the Daily Mail pure bollax.

Your starter for ten - your definition of "genuinely can't work" ?

How genuine would "genuinely can't" have to be if offered a £15k job in, say, Northampton, when the poster in question lives in Hull, has a home to pay for but probably can't sell right now, has a wife in a job in Hull and a child to pay childcare for especially when one of those parents will be working away in Northampton for five days a week.

I worked away from home for ten years so I'm well used to it but I was single and not a home owner then, it works for some but there is a point where you add up the sums and it really isn't a go-er - you can't call those people "Can work but won't" simply because they don't take any random job anywhere.






Someday everything is gonna be different, When I paint my masterpiece
------------------------------------------------------
The Jerry Chicken Blog Page
------------------------------------------------------
BUY MY ART ONLINE AT ARTGALLERY.CO.UK

AT THE RIPPINGHAM GALLERY
....................................................................
ART PROFILE
...................................................................
On Twitter
...................................................................
On Facebook
...................................................................

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: State Sponsored Slavery
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:54 pm 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels

Joined: Apr 03 2003
Posts: 37503
Mintball wrote:And how did your wife and children - your family life - work then?

I appreciate that family is only a sound bite these days, so I'm curious about your own experience.

Did you find that you and your wife's combined incomes could cover additional accommodation, for instance? Did your readiness to accept lower wages impact at all on your wife and children?


I dont have kids, if people were a bit more realistic when procreating we'd be a lot better off, a lot of people have kids that really can't afford them, and then expect the rest of us to bail them out.

I'm not getting drawn into this again, I did it with Damo and copped a ban for having an opinion.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: State Sponsored Slavery
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:54 pm 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels
User avatar

Joined: Feb 26 2002
Posts: 14522
Location: Online
Standee wrote:presumably she can spell it?

there are jobs, plenty of them, just people aren't prepared to change their wage demands and change location, much better to bleat on the internet all day.

There are jobs all right but unfortunately, there are between five and six times as many unemployed as there are jobs.
Obviously, the four or five who don't get each job are feckless layabouts.






Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice.
Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: State Sponsored Slavery
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:56 pm 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Feb 26 2002
Posts: 32466
Location: Leeds
Anakin Skywalker wrote:I have the words 'Cannot guarantee work' alongside childcare costs present a slight problem though.


I know, its not a perfect solution, but in my business I can see that agencies do some very hard selling to companies and they definitely attract opportunities that may otherwise have been full time permanent jobs.

On the other hand I do know that agency sales staff are always being pressed by their clients to send "X,Y & Z" if X,Y & Z have impressed the employer, its definitely a foot in the door.






Someday everything is gonna be different, When I paint my masterpiece
------------------------------------------------------
The Jerry Chicken Blog Page
------------------------------------------------------
BUY MY ART ONLINE AT ARTGALLERY.CO.UK

AT THE RIPPINGHAM GALLERY
....................................................................
ART PROFILE
...................................................................
On Twitter
...................................................................
On Facebook
...................................................................

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: State Sponsored Slavery
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:57 pm 
All Time Great
All Time Great
User avatar

Joined: May 10 2002
Posts: 47951
Location: Die Metropole
Standee wrote:I dont have kids, if people were a bit more realistic when procreating we'd be a lot better off, a lot of people have kids that really can't afford them, and then expect the rest of us to bail them out...


So a couple who are working shouldn't start a family because one of them might be laid off from the job they're in at some point in the future?

Standee - that's just crass.






"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller

"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

The Voluptuous Manifesto – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 354 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 ... 36  Next





It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:50 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 114 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:50 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
9m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
14m
Film game
Boss Hog
5730
16m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40785
17m
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
188
19m
Planning for next season
Bent&Bon
184
25m
Salford
Big lads mat
49
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
[Gareth]
28897
Recent
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
Recent
Ground Improvements
Trojan Horse
188
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
34s
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
188
42s
Salford placed in special measures
financialtim
105
44s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4037
50s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
52s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40785
56s
Accounts
Tony Fax
141
1m
Its all gone a bit quiet
Victor
25
1m
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
4m
2025 Shirt
Warrior Wing
20
4m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bullseye
2
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1027
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
634
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1358
England's Women Demolish The W..
1185
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1424
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1208
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1470
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2007
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2213
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2457
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2023
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2263
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2731
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2154
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2233
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
9m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
14m
Film game
Boss Hog
5730
16m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40785
17m
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
188
19m
Planning for next season
Bent&Bon
184
25m
Salford
Big lads mat
49
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
[Gareth]
28897
Recent
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
Recent
Ground Improvements
Trojan Horse
188
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
34s
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
188
42s
Salford placed in special measures
financialtim
105
44s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4037
50s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
52s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40785
56s
Accounts
Tony Fax
141
1m
Its all gone a bit quiet
Victor
25
1m
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
4m
2025 Shirt
Warrior Wing
20
4m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bullseye
2
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1027
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
634
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1358
England's Women Demolish The W..
1185
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1424
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1208
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1470
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2007
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2213
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2457
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2023
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2263
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2731
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2154
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2233


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.