We have more freedom, money and knowledge than our greatgrandparents - how come we've ended up with so much less dignity? Willfully ignoring the endemic domestic violence and even more entrenched class system, of course. Leisurewear, plastics and fast-food have a lot to answer for. Consumer society scunners me sometimes.
I have nothing to do with this company, btw.
Nice pictures but I think you need to take your rose tinted historical glasses off.
My grandma was born in 1910 and raised down Hessle Road, her father died when she was about six, lost at sea and her mother remarried a drunken alcoholic brute. They never had enough food and lived in slum housing, she suffered with malnutrition, by the age of thirteen she had TB. The abusive stepfather eventually committed suicide and her mother remarried, at fifteen the new step father threw her and her younger brother out and she went to work in the Needlers sweet factory to support them. She met my granddad and things were better but still I suspect tough, although normal to them she led a fairly normal life from there on in and died in 1987.
I doubt her experiences were at all unusual.
My point is, that away from the offices of the big shipping lines and fishing companies responsible for some of the beautiful architecture I would say life was very much worse for your average citizen in terms of social and economic opportunity than now.
Preston Road is well known as one of the most disadvantaged areas of the city but has recently seen the opening of what looks a very nice school, the opportunities are there to be taken, yes, it might be hard, but at least they're there.
I'm generalising an awful lot and I admit to having little knowledge about Hulls current climite as i haven't lived there for a long time, but you get the gist.
Mild Rover wrote:Didn't Hull look gorgeous in 1903...
We have more freedom, money and knowledge than our greatgrandparents - how come we've ended up with so much less dignity? Willfully ignoring the endemic domestic violence and even more entrenched class system, of course. Leisurewear, plastics and fast-food have a lot to answer for. Consumer society scunners me sometimes.
I have nothing to do with this company, btw.
Nice pictures but I think you need to take your rose tinted historical glasses off.
My grandma was born in 1910 and raised down Hessle Road, her father died when she was about six, lost at sea and her mother remarried a drunken alcoholic brute. They never had enough food and lived in slum housing, she suffered with malnutrition, by the age of thirteen she had TB. The abusive stepfather eventually committed suicide and her mother remarried, at fifteen the new step father threw her and her younger brother out and she went to work in the Needlers sweet factory to support them. She met my granddad and things were better but still I suspect tough, although normal to them she led a fairly normal life from there on in and died in 1987.
I doubt her experiences were at all unusual.
My point is, that away from the offices of the big shipping lines and fishing companies responsible for some of the beautiful architecture I would say life was very much worse for your average citizen in terms of social and economic opportunity than now.
Preston Road is well known as one of the most disadvantaged areas of the city but has recently seen the opening of what looks a very nice school, the opportunities are there to be taken, yes, it might be hard, but at least they're there.
I'm generalising an awful lot and I admit to having little knowledge about Hulls current climite as i haven't lived there for a long time, but you get the gist.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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Sandra The Terrorist wrote:Nice pictures but I think you need to take your rose tinted historical glasses off.
My grandma was born in 1910 and raised down Hessle Road, her father died when she was about six, lost at sea and her mother remarried a drunken alcoholic brute. They never had enough food and lived in slum housing, she suffered with malnutrition, by the age of thirteen she had TB. The abusive stepfather eventually committed suicide and her mother remarried, at fifteen the new step father threw her and her younger brother out and she went to work in the Needlers sweet factory to support them. She met my granddad and things were better but still I suspect tough, although normal to them she led a fairly normal life from there on in and died in 1987.
I doubt her experiences were at all unusual.
My point is, that away from the offices of the big shipping lines and fishing companies responsible for some of the beautiful architecture I would say life was very much worse for your average citizen in terms of social and economic opportunity than now.
Preston Road is well known as one of the most disadvantaged areas of the city but has recently seen the opening of what looks a very nice school, the opportunities are there to be taken, yes, it might be hard, but at least they're there.
I'm generalising an awful lot and I admit to having little knowledge about Hulls current climite as i haven't lived there for a long time, but you get the gist.
Oh, I know. I'm not glamourising the poverty, ignorance, misery and rudimentary plumbing. Now is better - it just looks worse. You take things very literally sometimes.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
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Mild Rover wrote:Oh, I know. I'm not glamourising the poverty, ignorance, misery and rudimentary plumbing. Now is better - it just looks worse. You take things very literally sometimes.
You asked the question, and if you're accusing me of having a binary world view then how very dare you Sir, how very dare you.
fx> Removes gauntlet and foppishly swipes Mild Rover across the chops <fx
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12672 Location: Leicestershire.
Sandra The Terrorist wrote:You asked the question, and if you're accusing me of having a binary world view then how very dare you Sir, how very dare you.
fx> Removes gauntlet and foppishly swipes Mild Rover across the chops <fx
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
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My Bike to Work voucher finally came through and I've GOT MY BIKE! IT'S ACE! I've been playing on it this afternoon and I'm going to ride to work on it tomorrow if it's not raining.
Took Marfa and Sandra's advice and got a hybrid. Was a bit scared I might fall off because I haven't ridden bike for about 20 years, but it really is like "riding a bike..."
It's a Specialized ladies black Globe: ...but I've got mudguards and a rear basket on mine. It's very beautiful.
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