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sally cinnamon wrote:The guy with the veneered teeth was quite a good singer but I don't know who he would sell songs to. His image was a bit too over the top clean and polished, he looked too gay to appeal to young girls, and too gay to appeal to guys, he was probably just going to appeal to housewives and older women who thought wouldn't it be nice to have a son like that and I don't know if that's a big enough market, so X factor probably thought he wouldn't get many people actually inspired to phone vote for him. Frankie on the other hand, is not going to be good enough to make a career as a singer because he is pretty rank average, but he is someone they can use for 5 or 6 weeks to market to the teenage girl audience, they have been pushing this image of him as a stud who can't keep his hands off the ladies. I had to laugh when I saw something in a paper the other day saying him and Amelia were an item, and a quote from her saying "he's not actually as much of a bad boy party animal as people think"....course he isn't, the producers are just pushing that image, he's just a normal 18 year old lad that you could pull out of any college. Look for another story soon saying he's shacked up with one of the other girls now Amelia's gone, so they can do an article "Amelia's heartbreak" - hopefully she will be too smart and savvy to drop the quotes they want into their lap.
IMO the winner will come from one of the two scouse lads, but they both look like typical X factor winners that will have one Christmas number one and you will never hear from them again. If Amelia hadn't been on X factor and had just come out of nowhere like Pixie Lott with her original image before X factor messed about with her, I could see her doing well because young girls would have seen her as 'cool' and confident/independent, she was clearly in an ability range well above the other contestants.
I like the scousers, but the manufactured group Risk might be the ones this time.
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Despite me quite liking Amelia while she was on the show I have started to find her a bit irritating this week. We haven't heard much from the others that were voted off but Amelia has been in the papers every day doing interviews and photographed in a tarty red dress posing for the paparazzi at various openings for this and that. She seems to be playing the life of a celebrity which is a dangerous route to go down when all she is actually 'famous' for so far is for auditioning at X factor and getting onto live shows then going out in the first week. Also her interviews are slightly too cocky, lots of people thought she was good, but she has been saying stuff like "I think Kelly just picked a name out of a hat" and "none of the other contestants could have done Billie Jean like I did" and "if it had been down to the public I would have got through because my fan base is huge".
This is the problem when you take a 16 year old girl who is quite cool and talented, give her a taste of glitz and glamour and surround her with sycophants telling her how great she is and how she's going to be a star. I also get the impression her parents have got money and are quite pushy, her older brother went on some reality show to get in the West End with Andrew Lloyd Webber at a similar age and they were pushing him and are now in the papers slagging off the X factor for booting their daughter out...that's not going to be a good thing if she gets seen as the 'girl with the pushy parents'.
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hopps wrote:Skanky cocozza was shoite again as usual but he is just the worst of a bad bunch this year
Frankie Cockend is a joke. He was so bad, even the panel couldn't make excuses for him. GET RID! He can't fooking sing!!!! And his appearance? It looks like he is stuck with the 'I've just sh/t my pants' look.
They are an ordinary bunch ... no superstars here.
Risk and Janet (although she is starting to irritate me) are OK.
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I reckon people sometimes underrate the democracy of the market, every year critics of the X factor say they resent having a winner being pushed on them and being forced to buy their music but in reality they aren't - they can ride off the 15 min of fame to get a Christmas number one when they have some fans fresh from the show but after that, Simon Cowell and his chums don't tell people to buy their records, they give them a record deal and a chance and then see what the public think, if the public aren't interested then the record label drops them as has happened to many winners and will happen to last years winner as well. They will only survive if they are good, and looking at this year's bunch of contestants none of them will go on to make it.
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Frankie Cockend survived ... what a pr/ck. Gary said......'this is the last time you'll be singing (SINGING???!!!!) for survival for a long time'. Excuse me, how does he know that? The sad Irish man said 'I am keeping in the act that I think has the most potential'. Not daring to put it to the public vote in case Cockend was bottom and we would be rid. The most potential means most controversial, simple as. Line them all up and shoot them ... the judges I mean. Manipulating, conniving b@stards the lot of them.
I don't really watch this shoite!
Why do losers have to be so magnanimous? Nu Vibe should have just said something to the effect that... 'we are sorry to lose, but especially sorry to lose to that talentless, @rsehole Frankie'. I think that would have found some resonance with the audience. It would have been cut though!
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sally cinnamon wrote:Have to agree, they are really poor this year.
I reckon people sometimes underrate the democracy of the market, every year critics of the X factor say they resent having a winner being pushed on them and being forced to buy their music but in reality they aren't - they can ride off the 15 min of fame to get a Christmas number one when they have some fans fresh from the show but after that, Simon Cowell and his chums don't tell people to buy their records, they give them a record deal and a chance and then see what the public think, if the public aren't interested then the record label drops them as has happened to many winners and will happen to last years winner as well. They will only survive if they are good, and looking at this year's bunch of contestants none of them will go on to make it.
X Factor, by the very nature of appearing every year, is not set up to provide and promote artists for the long term. No sooner will last year's winner have his debut album out in the shops than this year's will be getting all the publicity to push their Xmas single.
At least this year's panel of judges has stopped pretending it's anything more than a popularity contest with a bit of singing thrown in.
Expect some story or other about Frankie being good to his mum and looking after abandoned kittens in his spare time to appear in the tabloid rags this week. The role of this year's Katie Waisell seemed to be nailed on for Kitty, but something tells me the public have very quickly sussed out this mock "bad boy" for the talentless scrote he is.
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