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Wigan Peer wrote:Asgardian13 wrote:Your inferiority complex is showing. I have no hatred of Wigan - for instance I have no query with Sam Tomkins being selected for England and even agree that Joel is in with a shout for a spot in the forwards. I don't even 'hate' O'Loughlin - simply consider him a far more ordinary a player than do Wiganers.
You forgot to add the coaches from junior through to international level. Please excuse us if we DO find your view a little one-eyed.
You are excused. Anyone's entitled to make a mistake.
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Donna wrote:It's funny how lots of people think Lockers is overrated. Apart from the England coaches that is.
When was the last time these England coaches won anything? perhaps that suggests their views are not to be taken as an endorsement of OL,s quality?
As has been said before he is one of the dirtiest players in SL - a real head shot merchant who was ideally suited to Maguire's take on how RL should be played.
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Odem wrote:Lockers has made over 200 more tackles than Sinfield, scored 5 more tries, made more meters, more marker tackles, has fewer missed tackles and fewer errors.... all of that in one less game. O'loughling has also proved time and time again than he can make that killer pass and he makes the hard yards so well and puts in huge hits in defence hurting the opponent.
Sinfield is the better organiser and kicker. Sinfield is a brilliant player but he should play 9 IMO, not 13.
He also has fewer GF rings!! - stats can be made to say anything, fact is OL's record pales into insignificance when compared to Sinfields - end of.
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I wish people would stop saying it is a ‘fact’ that Sinfied is better than O’Loughlin or vice versa... they offer their teams differing but valuable elements to their game. Sinfield is the hub of the team, he bosses them around the park and he has all the skills. O’Loughlin on the other hand is more of a workrate forward but he can also step up and throw a try scoring cut out pass or set up a try with a quality short kick. He is also more hurtful and consistent in defence
If I was pressed on who was the better player I would say that Sinfield has been the better at Super league level as he has been so consistent in some very good Leeds teams. But internationally, I would go for O’Loughlin over Sinfield as I think his game is more suited to the tighter and more physical matches
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Sal Paradise wrote:He also has fewer GF rings!! - stats can be made to say anything, fact is OL's record pales into insignificance when compared to Sinfields - end of.
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Sal Paradise wrote:He also has fewer GF rings!! - stats can be made to say anything, fact is OL's record pales into insignificance when compared to Sinfields - end of.
Ok lets pick the team of English players who are most decorated and see how we go....
That would put Wellens back in the team. Fielden in the team, do you want that? Get Senior back in there.... Sean Long can play his last games for England.
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Around this time every year, we get a clamour for Sinfield to be picked for the international team, every time he is picked the results are disastorous as was his performance in the exiles game. Some good club players just can't cut it at the next level, and as Kevin has been around the England team since the 2000 World Cup without making his mark, perhaps it's time to close the book on this one. Great player for Leeds, though.
O'Loughlin has proven he can step up, hence his award of man of the series (the only British player currently playing to win such an award) against the Kiwis a few years ago.
Finfin wrote:O'Loughlin has proven he can step up, hence his award of man of the series (the only British player currently playing to win such an award) against the Kiwis a few years ago.
Apart from Burrow who was man of the series, Kevin Sinfield who was nominated for a golden boot 2 years ago?
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