scarrie wrote:If that's what you're looking for then Westerman might be worth a shout. He does need to stop trying to do it all himself though, I've noticed this season if we're up against it he almost tries too hard and has blown a few chances because of it. Something we can't afford to do.
Westerman is not good enough, simple as that. I would rather play Burgess or Westwood there than Westerman. My next choice would be Sinfield to organise and do a stint at 9 to help Roby out and also give us his kicking game.
Asgardian13 wrote:I don't see O'Loughlin every week but he has never impressed me as anything more than a solid worker. He can be forgiven for that but when you throw in the fact that he has to be one of the most blatant and consistent nigglers in the game I've always been puzzled as to his seemingly automatic international selection. Kevin Sinfield is an infinitely more talented loose forward, even before we discuss some of the younger options raised by others.
Lets just leave it there then.
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Odem wrote:Westerman is not good enough, simple as that. I would rather play Burgess or Westwood there than Westerman. My next choice would be Sinfield to organise and do a stint at 9 to help Roby out and also give us his kicking game.
Lets just leave it there then.
Burgess is out, I believe. Unless you're being hypothetical then ignore me...
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Big loss for England. As good and as important Sinfield is for Leeds, he just doesn't have the physical presence at International level. Would like to see Westerman given a go to realise his potential as a 13 but options are limited in this position. Danny Tickle as a wildcard?
Redchemic wrote:Big loss for England. As good and as important Sinfield is for Leeds, he just doesn't have the physical presence at International level. Would like to see Westerman given a go to realise his potential as a 13 but options are limited in this position. Danny Tickle as a wildcard?
Agree with the point about Sinfield, he has struggled physically in the past in international games – particularly in defence
If we have two good halves and Tomkins and Roby, I think we have enough attacking talent to forsake a creative loose forward and go with a full running pack with Westwood or Heighington at 13
Saddened! wrote:That's Wigan for you. But Saints told Josh Perry to get his op done straight away so he'd be ready for McBanaman's call.
You really are an odd fellow with an unhealthy obsession with anything anti-wigan.
Anyway. Club before Country = Family before County? Who pays the wages week by week? I agree that playing for your country is an huge honor, but if you are injured and have soldiered on for the good of your club then what's the problem with getting treatment v's playing injured for your country and most probably letting them down.
Or
All players should save themselves for internationals at the expense of the club game?
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The Reason wrote:Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.   Regards,  Matthew
I think it is looking more like this. Would make our pack a bit lightweight to have Sinfield at 13. Sinfield should be considered as a stand off now i think. It would be a lot to ask him to do 30+ tackles, organise and possibly kick goals.
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Heighington plays loose forward for Wests. I hope we don't put Sinfield at 13 - GB/England have tried 'ball handling' loose forwards for years and it simply doesn't work. we have halfbacks and the hooker to set up the plays. Funnily enough NZ and Australia don't need an extra playmaker, and instead prefer somebody who can provide a link if required, but also graft.
Sinfield has played to help out our poor halfs, hopefully with Brough, Widdop, Chase, Maguire, Myler and Sinfield to chose from we won't need a ball handling 13.
Tarquin Fuego wrote: I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.
The Reason wrote:Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.   Regards,  Matthew
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