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When does their season end RB?
Odd that he's committed to club cricket in Australia when you would think he'd be in with a shout of making the England squad to UAE and Sri Lanka in the New Year.
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Saddened! wrote:Hasn't he got like 120 odd test wickets. He's quality and should be a firm fixture in the England squad for personality purposes if nothing else.
don't be silly !
it's results that count,not gimmicks etc
Swanns' average is miles better than than Panesar and rightly is the current England no.1
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Andy Gilder wrote:When does their season end RB?
Odd that he's committed to club cricket in Australia when you would think he'd be in with a shout of making the England squad to UAE and Sri Lanka in the New Year.
Odd that he's committed to club cricket in Australia when you would think he'd be in with a shout of making the England squad to UAE and Sri Lanka in the New Year.
Joined: Mar 28 2010 Posts: 5506 Location: Albi, France
I would take Tredwell with his better batting and more varied bowling attack than Monty - it's a results business and I think Monty was found out by the other test teams - I think Tredwell deserves another chance
problem is that the ECB are about as reliable as the RFL.....
Joined: Mar 28 2010 Posts: 5506 Location: Albi, France
If you want to go for youth Scott Borthwick could be the real deal - he can bat and is a genuine leggie with loads of potential - it would be great to see the selectors give him a chance despite his age and inexperience.
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Panesar is actually the leading wicket taker in Division 1 this year (at least before the current round of matches) so given he was back up spinner on last winter's tour he certainly ought to be under very serious consideration for the next one!
The Pakistan series in Abu Dhabi & Dubai (3 Tests) starts in mid-January, with Sri lanka (2 Tests) in late March / early April. I would think his deal with Randwick factors in a possible place on those tours during the second half of thier season.
Division 1 bowling averages below batting averages on this link:
Gary Keedy and Samit Patel are the other most prominent spinners on the list if you ignore occasionals who've taken just a few wickets.
It's a pity Adil Rashid seems to have gone backwards this year. I would think Scott Borthwick is a bit too green for a senior tour at present. Danny Briggs at Hants is the other spinner to have featured in Lions matches this summer so he's obviously in the selectors' thoughts too, but again he's pretty raw.
Tredwell is the only notable contender in Division 2 as far as I can see, but he's an off spinner and if the selectors might want to use two spinners in Asia a left armer or a leggie would give more variety in tandem with Swann.
I'll be surprised if the selectors ignore Panesar's wealth of experience, and think they'd be foolish to do so. He may have been overshadowed by Swann in recent times but he can still tie an end down without going for too many runs.
I'd think about taking Patel as an all-rounder / spin option.
Panesar is actually the leading wicket taker in Division 1 this year (at least before the current round of matches) so given he was back up spinner on last winter's tour he certainly ought to be under very serious consideration for the next one!
The Pakistan series in Abu Dhabi & Dubai (3 Tests) starts in mid-January, with Sri lanka (2 Tests) in late March / early April. I would think his deal with Randwick factors in a possible place on those tours during the second half of thier season.
Division 1 bowling averages below batting averages on this link:
Gary Keedy and Samit Patel are the other most prominent spinners on the list if you ignore occasionals who've taken just a few wickets.
It's a pity Adil Rashid seems to have gone backwards this year. I would think Scott Borthwick is a bit too green for a senior tour at present. Danny Briggs at Hants is the other spinner to have featured in Lions matches this summer so he's obviously in the selectors' thoughts too, but again he's pretty raw.
Tredwell is the only notable contender in Division 2 as far as I can see, but he's an off spinner and if the selectors might want to use two spinners in Asia a left armer or a leggie would give more variety in tandem with Swann.
I'll be surprised if the selectors ignore Panesar's wealth of experience, and think they'd be foolish to do so. He may have been overshadowed by Swann in recent times but he can still tie an end down without going for too many runs.
I'd think about taking Patel as an all-rounder / spin option.
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