Joined: Oct 15 2008 Posts: 1944 Location: east hull
SirStan wrote:Its not the priority of the coach of Hull KR to do what's best for England, he should have said to Fox that left wing is his best position and that's where you stay for the good of the club. The move has (IMO) contributed to his loss of form and has probably curtailed his international career, so he would have been better served stayting on the left and taking his chances with the national coach.
but surely his coach should see the move hasnt done any one any good and would maybe move him back to the other wing, its not as if Colbon has been outstanding since the swap is it?
Joined: Mar 10 2011 Posts: 1508 Location: Bumblescum, AL
Easty wrote:What would have swayed it for Rovers then, the fact he's on a decent wage or the fact that as a winger he's scored in ONLY two games this season and have looked awful for a large proportion of the season whilst one of the other backs has gone over the 20 mark.
I know where my money would lie on this subject and i don't think it would be motivated by money.
Of course the decision is likely to be motivated by money (as well as form). There's no point having a player earning an Intl wage on your books, when he's suddenly become awful this season and then is likely to become a bit part player next year. If he was on a smaller wage, I bet we would like to keep him to be as cover. As it is, it just makes sense to try and offload him if he's earning too much to be just a squad player. Trouble is I doubt we'll get our way.
I can't see why Fox would want to move. He won't get the same deal at another club right now, so he may as well stay and try and get himself back into form next year. If that happened he's likely to have a few suitors who will want him.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12672 Location: Leicestershire.
SirStan wrote::D Agreed. However JM didn't need to leave him on the right for the best part of 2 years, it was obvious during 2010 that he wasn't the same player.
Was still selected for the England elite squad at the beginning of this year on his form from last season. Did okay there when he got his chance for England in 2009 as well. While the left-right thing and his bulking up have no doubt been issues, mostly it has been a form-confidence downward spiral IMO.
Unless the club are confident there'll be interest, I don't see any point in this - it's hardly going to give him a lift if he does stay. I can see arguments for retaining Colbon ahead of Fox, but they aren't so strong that I'd risk tying myself in knots when one is contracted and the other isn't. I can easily imagine Fox recapturing some form in 2012 - and if he doesn't, then we've got an easy and straight forward option.
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Easty wrote:What would have swayed it for Rovers then, the fact he's on a decent wage or the fact that as a winger he's scored in ONLY two games this season and have looked awful for a large proportion of the season whilst one of the other backs has gone over the 20 mark.
I know where my money would lie on this subject and i don't think it would be motivated by money.
i certainly wouldn't claim to have all the answers, just my own opinions and my opinion on this is that BOTH Foxy's wages and form would contribute to the decision. I don't deny i didn't mention his form in my original post but obviously agree that this would contribute to the alleged decision rovers have made.
i just think showing him the door for either of these reasons is wrong as i believe he is a quality winger who can turn his form around if given the chance
Fox has been no worse than Clinton, we should let him talk to other clubs aswell and get a prop forward in who wants to be here. See how fox goes till the end of the season he might find his feet again.
Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
BigTonyB wrote:Fox has been no worse than Clinton, we should let him talk to other clubs aswell and get a prop forward in who wants to be here. See how fox goes till the end of the season he might find his feet again.
TBF, although Fox has been a bit rubbish, at least he looks like he gives a shizzle, unlike Clinton.
Given a proper off season I'd have every confidence that Fox can get back to somewhere near his best which would mean fifteen to twenty tries a season. Unless we've got other irons in the fire that are going to add more balance, for example, some big barn storming props than this seems a very strange decision.
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Agreed. However JM didn't need to leave him on the right for the best part of 2 years, it was obvious during 2010 that he wasn't the same player.
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