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 Post subject: Re: Ben Cockayne leaves Hull KR
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:21 pm 
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dum-dum wrote:Each to their own opinion.

On the field he was unmatched for heart and off the field he was a great lad too, I've had the pleasure of talking to Ben a fair few times and he always had time for fans.

What he got up to, in his own time, is no worse than what goes unnoticed each and every day countless times in Hull, some far worse. His identity tied up his actions and sadly has ended his stay at Hull KR.

If it hadn't been for the media sources around the modern game this wouldn't have been the outcome.

Barrie McDermott has done worse than Charlie (he was the first person in the UK charged with using CS gas in a brawl) and now is a much loved TV pundit.

Oh dear.

dum-dum wrote:He's not even racist, he joined some 'proud to be British' Facebook groups and called an indian taxi driver a derogatory term (not to his face, to his own friends) hardly puts him in white robes with a burning cross, does it?

I could join the same groups (which have over 1000 members) and write offensive comments on my wall and I guarantee I won't end up in the paper.

Oh dear.

dum-dum wrote:I just have a lot of time for Charlie, what he posts at 2am after a drunken night shouldn't really end up in the paper. I suppose it's his own fault for accepting all friend requests.

Oh dear. Who are you and what have you done with dum-dum?

dum-dum has always come across as a rational and balanced person who would immediately understand that trying to defend the indefensible merely tars one with the same brush.

Do you really think that the fault lies with the media for highlighting that what Cockayne did in his own time was racist and unacceptable? Do you honestly think that just because others are sadly just as bad or worse in attitude than Cockayne then that makes his actions all right?

Do you truly believe that because the phrase "P--i C---" was posted only to his friends and not to the target himself that means that Cockayne is not racist? Despite the fact that the phrase is even in his head in the first place? Despite the fact he believes the Channel Tunnel should be blocked and signs up to right-wing extremist groups?

I can't believe dum-dum would say that a man who lies and cheats his way out of the army, half kills a man in the most cowardly of ways and makes racist remarks in private albeit on a publicly accessible website is a pleasure to talk to and a "great lad". And then goes on to bemoan the fact that it's all unfair because it's alright to be that way as long as it's done privately and the big mean newspaper blokes are the real crooks in all of this because they've shown him up for what he is and ruined his career and plenty of other people in the world are just as bad so that makes it all right then. Really? Shows how wrong you can be about people.






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 Post subject: Re: Ben Cockayne leaves Hull KR
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dum-dum wrote:He's not even racist, he joined some 'proud to be British' Facebook groups and called an indian taxi driver a derogatory term (not to his face, to his own friends) hardly puts him in white robes with a burning cross, does it?

I could join the same groups (which have over 1000 members) and write offensive comments on my wall and I guarantee I won't end up in the paper.


Not really the ultimate definition of a racist, though.

Suggesting someone is ugly and stinking due to their beliefs is a bit racist, surely?

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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Not really the ultimate definition of a racist, though.

Suggesting someone is ugly and stinking due to their beliefs is a bit racist, surely?

What do beliefs have to do with racism? Do you even know what racism is???






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MrPhilb wrote:What do beliefs have to do with racism? Do you even know what racism is???


Oh my word I cannot believe you posted that!....Here is a link directed at children I feel it may help
http://www.childline.org.uk/explore/rac ... acism.aspx
MrPhilb wrote:What do beliefs have to do with racism? Do you even know what racism is???


Oh my word I cannot believe you posted that!....Here is a link directed at children I feel it may help
http://www.childline.org.uk/explore/rac ... acism.aspx






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berrigans bitch wrote:Oh my word I cannot believe you posted that!....Here is a link directed at children I feel it may help
http://www.childline.org.uk/explore/rac ... acism.aspx

Thanks for backing up my point
berrigans bitch wrote:Oh my word I cannot believe you posted that!....Here is a link directed at children I feel it may help
http://www.childline.org.uk/explore/rac ... acism.aspx

Thanks for backing up my point






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 Post subject: Re: Ben Cockayne leaves Hull KR
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This is going a sinbin way.
Cockayne deserved to go because he didnt behave simple.
Hudgell said tonight he thought a lot about the guy but it wouldnt look good to the rest of the team who behaved, to allow one individual to be constantly excused.
Agreed.






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WormInHand wrote: Shows how wrong you can be about people.


Harsh, dum-dum's not defending him (I don't think) he's merely pointing out what an idiot Cockayne is.






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pmh wrote:Harsh, dum-dum's not defending him (I don't think) he's merely pointing out what an idiot Cockayne is.


Well it could well be interpreted the other way to be honest.






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