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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:17 am 
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Beverley red wrote:From my source in Australia, The Sydney Sunday Telegraph sports pull out has it that Morgan has been offered the NZ warriors job! I have not seen the artical just heared today from family down there.

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/a ... d=10737566
Beverley red wrote:From my source in Australia, The Sydney Sunday Telegraph sports pull out has it that Morgan has been offered the NZ warriors job! I have not seen the artical just heared today from family down there.

From the NZ Herald
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/a ... d=10737566

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 Post subject: Re: Justin Morgan
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:11 am 
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Aldy wrote:How have Rovers treat the HDM like dirt?


When's the last time someone talked to us? The only quotes I can recall are from Morgan during his press duties and the odd snippet from Hudgell. It seems clear from the outside looking in, that HDM no longer have a lot access to Rovers.

I think the recent 'bad blood' (if there is any) started when Rovers cut them out of the Mason week to start with. The Mail then (aided by Radio Humberside) did their sleuthing to 'uncover' the Dobson deregistering saga. The Mail then ran the Dobson 'free agent/contract terminated' story whilst HKR said no comment, instead preferred to issue their own statement on hullkr.co.uk. The story snow balled and over shadowed the 'what was the biggest signing in our history' story. Hudge then goes on record over the PA system at CP expressing his displeasure at both local media outlets etc.

If I recall at the time Rovers were getting a new website and started to aggressively promote hullkr.tv by releasing all/most of their content and news through this media stream. This move no doubt improved traffic to hullkr.co.uk and helped the commercial partners in the process. But more or less cut out HDM/Humberside.

The problem what we’ve had this season is the relentless PR disasters that have happened. We don’t want to talk about them and so the likes of the HDM have had free rein to say whatever they like. ‘The Mail understands … followed by ‘Sources close’ are a proven winner. Because we’re not talking to them our side of matters haven’t come across. Thus we can’t control or limit what bad press we’re getting … PR disasters.






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 Post subject: Re: Justin Morgan
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:07 pm 
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joburg wrote:Why should the club tell the fans everything?!!

I certainly don't expect it and it is not the way to run a business.


yer its like these travel agents that know they are going out of business, yet still sell holidays they cant provide, knowing full well they cant give you your money back, keeping people in the dark, now thats the way to run a business, right on!!!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:51 pm 
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☺East-Sard☺ wrote:When's the last time someone talked to us? The only quotes I can recall are from Morgan during his press duties and the odd snippet from Hudgell. It seems clear from the outside looking in, that HDM no longer have a lot access to Rovers.

I think the recent 'bad blood' (if there is any) started when Rovers cut them out of the Mason week to start with. The Mail then (aided by Radio Humberside) did their sleuthing to 'uncover' the Dobson deregistering saga. The Mail then ran the Dobson 'free agent/contract terminated' story whilst HKR said no comment, instead preferred to issue their own statement on hullkr.co.uk. The story snow balled and over shadowed the 'what was the biggest signing in our history' story. Hudge then goes on record over the PA system at CP expressing his displeasure at both local media outlets etc.

If I recall at the time Rovers were getting a new website and started to aggressively promote hullkr.tv by releasing all/most of their content and news through this media stream. This move no doubt improved traffic to hullkr.co.uk and helped the commercial partners in the process. But more or less cut out HDM/Humberside.

The problem what we’ve had this season is the relentless PR disasters that have happened. We don’t want to talk about them and so the likes of the HDM have had free rein to say whatever they like. ‘The Mail understands … followed by ‘Sources close’ are a proven winner. Because we’re not talking to them our side of matters haven’t come across. Thus we can’t control or limit what bad press we’re getting … PR disasters.


Fair post.
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 Post subject: Re: Justin Morgan
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:09 pm 
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☺East-Sard☺ wrote:When's the last time someone talked to us? The only quotes I can recall are from Morgan during his press duties and the odd snippet from Hudgell. It seems clear from the outside looking in, that HDM no longer have a lot access to Rovers.

I think the recent 'bad blood' (if there is any) started when Rovers cut them out of the Mason week to start with. The Mail then (aided by Radio Humberside) did their sleuthing to 'uncover' the Dobson deregistering saga. The Mail then ran the Dobson 'free agent/contract terminated' story whilst HKR said no comment, instead preferred to issue their own statement on hullkr.co.uk. The story snow balled and over shadowed the 'what was the biggest signing in our history' story. Hudge then goes on record over the PA system at CP expressing his displeasure at both local media outlets etc.

If I recall at the time Rovers were getting a new website and started to aggressively promote hullkr.tv by releasing all/most of their content and news through this media stream. This move no doubt improved traffic to hullkr.co.uk and helped the commercial partners in the process. But more or less cut out HDM/Humberside.

The problem what we’ve had this season is the relentless PR disasters that have happened. We don’t want to talk about them and so the likes of the HDM have had free rein to say whatever they like. ‘The Mail understands … followed by ‘Sources close’ are a proven winner. Because we’re not talking to them our side of matters haven’t come across. Thus we can’t control or limit what bad press we’re getting … PR disasters.

Very fair. Clubs fall out with the local media generally because they've done something stupid and don't like it getting made a fuss of (see Reardongate and other mistakes at FC that resulted in banning RH for weeks on end). It's really just best to just front up. ATEOTD the embarrassing hype over Mason's signing and commensurate humiliation over the de-registration of Dobson and exit of Mason after 6 games was entirely on Hudgell's watch. He should have come clean straightaway rather than let the local media tease the story out over a long and damaging period, and then sought to build bridges. Not speaking to the local media only hurts the fans IMO.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:24 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Very fair. Clubs fall out with the local media generally because they've done something stupid and don't like it getting made a fuss of (see Reardongate and other mistakes at FC that resulted in banning RH for weeks on end). It's really just best to just front up. ATEOTD the embarrassing hype over Mason's signing and commensurate humiliation over the de-registration of Dobson and exit of Mason after 6 games was entirely on Hudgell's watch. He should have come clean straightaway rather than let the local media tease the story out over a long and damaging period, and then sought to build bridges. Not speaking to the local media only hurts the fans IMO.


In the case of the HDM I really don't feel it does - there are so many other ways to get Rovers info these days, if HDM stopped all coverage of us tommorow I don't think it would affect the club e.g. through attendances or merchandise sales.






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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:57 pm 
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I reckon Gary Hetherington might be reaching for David Riolo's mobile number now :wink:






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 Post subject: Re: Justin Morgan
PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:15 am 
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Roofs wrote:In the case of the HDM I really don't feel it does - there are so many other ways to get Rovers info these days, if HDM stopped all coverage of us tommorow I don't think it would affect the club e.g. through attendances or merchandise sales.


I don't agree, for all its faults the HDM along with RH is the main source of info for the vast majority of the fanbase. Negative spin (or god forbid no press) on the club during the closed season could see a downturn in actual pass sales. It can also have a negative effect on the ability to generate sponsorship for the club. If for instance a Hull based company wants to sponsor a team would they go for the team surrounded in negative press ore no press or would they go for a team that had the back page each week.

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 Post subject: Re: Justin Morgan
PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:05 am 
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Hull kr must want rid of Morgan otherwise they wudnt be allowing him to speak to cas this week, so if he doesn't get the job at cas is it gonna be all negative at kr for the next two years until he does go, morgs and hudgell always been close, not anymore.

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