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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:49 pm 
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berrigans bitch wrote:Mmm..as long as they are not Pa***i C****t eh!.....I honestly thought you were brighter than this.
Right so we are back to that again then.
You still failed to answer my questions
What Ben wrote doesn't automatically make him a racist apart from the statement you have just stated.
No matter how many times you post it that wont change.
My view is that it should be British jobs for British folks in the current climate I can see nothing wrong with that statement.
As for the other statement on its own that COULD be classed as an eye for an eye.
Neither of those statements in isolation are racist comments.

Just to be clear here I belive Ben should have been sacked, But for his comment above and his previous discretion.
His other views that are been thrown at him are not necessarily racist.






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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:53 pm 
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Roverswall wrote:Right so we are back to that again then.
You still failed to answer my questions
What Ben wrote doesn't automatically make him a racist apart from the statement you have just stated.
No matter how many times you post it that wont change.
My view is that it should be British jobs for British folks in the current climate I can see nothing wrong with that statement.
As for the other statement on its own that COULD be classed as an eye for an eye.
Neither of those statements in isolation are racist comments.

Just to be clear here I belive Ben should have been sacked, But for his comment above and his previous discretion.
His other views that are been thrown at him are not necessarily racist.


Are you deliberately missing the point here...British jobs for British folks I agree is not necessarily racist in isolation..however when you also write P**i c***t, it puts a whole different perspective on that sentence.






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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:54 pm 
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I can actually understand both sides of the arguement to be honest.
But the courts and players clubs can sort it for me and im just a fan who watches the 17 picked every week and dont get worked up enough to have an outspoken opinion either way.
Players always have and always will do things in their private lifes that subject them to these type of threads.
Aspinwall at Cas has been far from an angel recently and there have also been many instances of players caught drink driving which for me is one of the worse things a person can do.
Getting angry on here about it doesnt really acheive much though.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:02 pm 
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berrigans bitch wrote:Are you deliberately missing the point here...British jobs for British folks I agree is not necessarily racist in isolation..however when you also write P**i c***t, it puts a whole different perspective on that sentence.
No.
But I have said things in the past I havent meant and later regreted(Not saying that is true in this case).
So just because I say one thing in error that doesnt mean any other comments I make have to be taken In that same context (Again if Bens are).
You are of the opinion that because he said W that means that X+Y has to mean W.
That isn't strictly true, Neither you or me know that to be the case concusivley(sp).






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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:09 pm 
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Roverswall wrote:No.
But I have said things in the past I havent meant and later regreted(Not saying that is true in this case).
So just because I say one thing in error that doesnt mean any other comments I make have to be taken In that same context (Again if Bens are).
You are of the opinion that because he said W that means that X+Y has to mean W.
That isn't strictly true, Neither you or me know that to be the case concusivley(sp).


If you call someone p*** c*** i think it generally means you have racist views, hence why i thought he should have been sacked. Not being prosecuted has nothing to do with it as im not sure its a criminal offence as such. Even if it is itss unlikely cost effective to pusue. Hes admitted it was him therefore its against the club/sport ethic.
He wasnt so i assume we get on with it. Hope hes learned his lesson and manages to educate himself to change his views.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:13 pm 
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Roverswall wrote:No.
But I have said things in the past I havent meant and later regreted(Not saying that is true in this case).
So just because I say one thing in error that doesnt mean any other comments I make have to be taken In that same context (Again if Bens are).
You are of the opinion that because he said W that means that X+Y has to mean W.
That isn't strictly true, Neither you or me know that to be the case concusivley(sp).

But how else can P......i C......t be interpretated?






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Roverswall wrote:No.
But I have said things in the past I havent meant and later regreted(Not saying that is true in this case).
So just because I say one thing in error that doesnt mean any other comments I make have to be taken In that same context (Again if Bens are).
You are of the opinion that because he said W that means that X+Y has to mean W.
That isn't strictly true, Neither you or me know that to be the case concusivley(sp).


I often say things I regret, I am renowned for saying it like it is, however I have never passed a racist or homophobic comment, it would just not enter my head.Clearly all the stuff on his facebook shown in the HDM did nothing to imply he is innocent, also his history does him no good, so on the balance of probability I would say he is a racist,like I said it appears he has no respect for fellow human beings, I do not get any satisfaction about this either, it is a sad state of affairs in this day and age.






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Yet you hero worship a certain hull fc second row forward, now why was his debut for castleford delayed? Bens biggest crime in your eyes is playing for hull Kingston rovers, I don't recall you going to these length of posts for a convicted racist in gareth raynor






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WormInHand wrote:But how else can P......i C......t be interpretated?
Only one way but it doesn't automatically mean he meant the other things in a racist way.
He may have done or he may not, You can be pretty sure but that is about as close as you can get unless you were in Bens head when he typed it.






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berrigans bitch wrote:I often say things I regret, I am renowned for saying it like it is, however I have never passed a racist or homophobic comment, it would just not enter my head.Clearly all the stuff on his facebook shown in the HDM did nothing to imply he is innocent, also his history does him no good, so on the balance of probability I would say he is a racist,like I said it appears he has no respect for fellow human beings, I do not get any satisfaction about this either, it is a sad state of affairs in this day and age.
I agree but you cannot 100% know when he posted the other things on Facebook that it was meant as you read it, Only Ben can know that.
That was my point from minute one.






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