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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:20 am 
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WormInHand wrote:How can you possibly assume this? What evidence is there? This current trend of Rovers fans blaming Mason on the radio and on messageboards is beyond the pale.

When he did finally speak to Toulon it was after months of manipulative rule-bending (during which Rovers' mismanagement ensured he became involuntarily complicit) which started and ended with him being unable to play the game. Little wonder he had to take matters into his own hands, the situation had become insecure at best, career threatening at worse.

People need to wind their necks in when publicly slating him lest they lose their heads.







And what evidence is there to say like wise Mason admitted to the club he has had talks with Toulon last year and this year

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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:22 am 
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WormInHand wrote:How can you possibly assume this? What evidence is there? This current trend of Rovers fans blaming Mason on the radio and on messageboards is beyond the pale.

When he did finally speak to Toulon it was after months of manipulative rule-bending (during which Rovers' mismanagement ensured he became involuntarily complicit) which started and ended with him being unable to play the game. Little wonder he had to take matters into his own hands, the situation had become insecure at best, career threatening at worse.

People need to wind their necks in when publicly slating him lest they lose their heads.

Correct. Very funny but entirely unsuccessful efforts to deflect the understandable crushing disappointment in the context of cardboard cutouts, Beckham comparisons, pay to watch him go to the toilet hysteria. When all is said and done, Mason was messed about due to Rovers inept management team. He showed willing in going to Tonga, he came across in very good shape. Morgan spoke glowingly of how well he trained. He played every game possible.

I look forward to evidence that he was talking to Toulon long before he was de-registered as there was no talk of it before David Burns broke the story and it's a new and highly convenient, unproven slur on Mason at a time of embarrassment for Rovers. Even if it were true, Hudgell was very clear that all parties knew Dobson would be re-registered as soon as fit and Mason was well aware of it. In this context and with no passport in sight, Mason's actions in exploring options are entirely understandable. I find it very odd that the HDM are reporting that the Toulon stories were doing the rounds before Mason arrived. It's simply not true and very poor by the HDM.

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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:28 am 
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Dudley wrote:WRONG! Paul Cooke was found guilty of approaching Rovers, hence his ban, but don't let the facts get in the way of your post.


So Rovers didn't show any interest until he had left Hull FC?

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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:32 am 
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gingerspice wrote:And what evidence is there to say like wise Mason admitted to the club he has had talks with Toulon last year and this year

Eh?






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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:32 am 
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Hudgell was very clear that all parties knew Dobson would be re-registered as soon as fit and Mason was well aware of it. In this context and with no passport in sight, Mason's actions in exploring options are entirely understandable.


he was offered the chance to play for a well established super league team on loan,
his "understandable actions " as you put it only came into play when he realised that bigger money was elsewere.






nothing wrong with smelling the flowers its when you start picking them when the problems start.

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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:37 am 
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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:43 am 
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Mrs Barista wrote:I find it very odd that the HDM are reporting that the Toulon stories were doing the rounds before Mason arrived. It's simply not true and very poor by the HDM.

Hmm. It's an ill-concealed secret that Rovers have blackballed the Mail and Humberside recently over their respective reportings on this saga. They've all leapt back into bed again now, though, and are cuddled under a rosy quilt.

Wonder what convinced Hudge to be nice again?






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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:54 am 
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Roofs wrote:Compensation for unsettling Mason? :THINK:

No evidence whatsoever that Toulon approached Mason, and it's two different sports with two different governing bodies. Seems rather unlikely. And since Mason claims not to have been paid for two months (that's a month before he was deregistered) it could be argued that Rovers were the ones doing the unsettling.






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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:57 am 
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Dudley wrote:No relevant documentsin POSSESION, no registration for Super League, no discussion no dispensation, no more fiascos like these.

Works for me. Far too sensible for the RFL though.






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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:59 am 
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Mrs Barista wrote:A good post, and makes sense, but I can't believe Rovers didn't assist Mason in getting his passport after the hype around his signing. Surely they would have pulled out all the stops to assist him? :?

They did try to help him get a passport but that's not the point.

I'm not disappointed in the board for signing Mason because it was low risk. But I'm disappointed in the fact they appear to be absolving responsibility for the predicament the put Willie Mason in and that doesn't wash with me at all..

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