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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:41 am 
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Kosh wrote:Why would Toulon pay Rovers for a player they have released? :?

By that calculation, we are still due a fee for Paul Cooke!

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:42 am 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Your best post ever. I like this scenario. :lol:





Lol wudnt put it past him :D

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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:42 am 
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Mick Cranes Sidestep wrote:By that calculation, we are still due a fee for Paul Cooke!



Go get if of Mason he is bloody loaded :D

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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:00 am 
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Mick Cranes Sidestep wrote:By that calculation, we are still due a fee for Paul Cooke!
Well technically the clock is still ticking on that issue.






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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:04 am 
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Roverswall wrote:Well technically the clock is still ticking on that issue.





Tick tock tick tock

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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:04 am 
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gingerspice wrote:Go get if of Mason he is bloody loaded :D


Had a text last night telling me that loaded willie had put £1m into the club as he had done nothing in East Hull either

I've had a quick look through the threads and in summary what goes around comes around. You completely shafted Hull FC over the Paul Cooke saga, approaching a contracted player (RL findings and view not mine) so this looks a lot like payback to me.

You signed the guy as a quota player, changed the conditions of his move to HKR once you failed to get a Maltese passport and then bent the RL rules to get him over here and playing.

Is Willie Mason to blame, even if the Wails statement of approaching Tool-on was before he left to England, I would suggest NO. He is just ensuring that he had a plan B if the passport didn't arrive, can't blame him for that. Would all this have happened if he arrived before Xmas on an Aussie passport and completed a full pre season and was here for the friendlies, who knows?

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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:38 am 
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Erik the not red wrote:Only problem being that the visa is not issued by the RFL and therefore it can be refused for non rugby related reasons. This is what happened with Crocker, Eastwood, Bird & Carney. They can be considered something of hard luck stories, though you can reasonably argue that the clubs should have done more research into their backgrounds. With Mason a visa as such wasn't the problem, only the passport it came with so that Hudgell could fiddle the quota system. The RFL needs to hang its head in shame for allowing this to happen by either (a) believing Hudgell's promises or (b) caving in to any threats he made [delete as appropriate].

No relevant documentsin POSSESION, no registration for Super League, no discussion no dispensation, no more fiascos like these.

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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:05 am 
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gingerspice wrote:... I just don't think Mason was totally innocent in all of this, he was gonna jump ship even with his passport an opportunity came along he has took it.

How can you possibly assume this? What evidence is there? This current trend of Rovers fans blaming Mason on the radio and on messageboards is beyond the pale.

When he did finally speak to Toulon it was after months of manipulative rule-bending (during which Rovers' mismanagement ensured he became involuntarily complicit) which started and ended with him being unable to play the game. Little wonder he had to take matters into his own hands, the situation had become insecure at best, career threatening at worse.

People need to wind their necks in when publicly slating him lest they lose their heads.






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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:14 am 
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smudgersmith wrote:Had a text last night telling me that loaded willie had put £1m into the club as he had done nothing in East Hull either

I've had a quick look through the threads and in summary what goes around comes around. You completely shafted Hull FC over the Paul Cooke saga, approaching a contracted player (RL findings and view not mine) so this looks a lot like payback to me.

You signed the guy as a quota player, changed the conditions of his move to HKR once you failed to get a Maltese passport and then bent the RL rules to get him over here and playing.

Is Willie Mason to blame, even if the Wails statement of approaching Tool-on was before he left to England, I would suggest NO. He is just ensuring that he had a plan B if the passport didn't arrive, can't blame him for that. Would all this have happened if he arrived before Xmas on an Aussie passport and completed a full pre season and was here for the friendlies, who knows?

WRONG! Paul Cooke was found guilty of approaching Rovers, hence his ban, but don't let the facts get in the way of your post.

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 Post subject: Re: The mason situation
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:16 am 
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WormInHand wrote:How can you possibly assume this? What evidence is there? This current trend of Rovers fans blaming Mason on the radio and on messageboards is beyond the pale.

When he did finally speak to Toulon it was after months of manipulative rule-bending (during which Rovers' mismanagement ensured he became involuntarily complicit) which started and ended with him being unable to play the game. Little wonder he had to take matters into his own hands, the situation had become insecure at best, career threatening at worse.

People need to wind their necks in when publicly slating him lest they lose their heads.



whilst most people will agree with the comment ref the club messing up the deal and going round the houses to fit mason in.
by mason doing what he did whilst still under contract he had absolutly no intention of staying ,
no one is saying mason is to blame for the full episode but hes hardly blameless.
yes he jumped through hoops did what was asked off him etc etc ,
but he was still been paid by rovers ,the last thing rovers wanted was for mason to be sat on the side lines not playing and been paid ,
the passport issue is of our own doing and was a massive risk whcih didnt come off,bottom line is we got assurances from external forces stating mason passport would be here "any day" .
he knew the situation and choose to look else were ,his greed came shining through as did our massive gamble.

IMO lessons learned on both partys
HKR will not take the risk with out relevent paper work
Willie will sell his own grandad if the moneys right






nothing wrong with smelling the flowers its when you start picking them when the problems start.

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