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 Post subject: Re: Franchising and promotion
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:15 am 
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J20 wrote:Hardly any by the looks of it BUT how many were snapped up to SL as isn't that the question being asked?


Either way , it makes a total mockery of the franchise system , and the on field qualification process attached to it , the same could quite easily apply to Leigh this year if we are fortunate to win the NRC or make the GF

The idea is you are trying to build up your whole club , a major part of that is your 1 st team playing squad , instead we have a ' lottery ' system , which is no more credible than automatic P and R , as for your comments earlier about academies , that also is total bollox , all it is doing is putting completely unneccessay pressure on club owners






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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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 Post subject: Re: Franchising and promotion
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:19 am 
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J20 wrote:For me in an ideal world we would have P&R but with strict conditions. Mainly having an academy. It's ok saying these sides matched up well to a SL club in a one off game but what if that time was in SL and hit an injury list like Saints have now... Where do they go for players? I know this costs mobey but that's a separate issue that needs sorting.

On players, can't think of too many examples of that happening a lot to any particular club? Players will always want to play at a higher level should the chance come anyway... For example Quins are gutanteed in reality to be in SL forever under this system yet LMS still left to join Saints?

WHATS THE POINT OF A ACADEMY IF YOU NEVER PLAY THESE KIDS???

At least at leigh we are bringing through the kids to the first team and they are winning on merit,I suppose we could all follow the widnes method win rail cup, off load all players suck up the rl and twiddle thumbs for 2 years.

Franchise is so flawed its beyond belief,Give the championship clubs equal funding as super league as from all I can see is they spend this funding pension boosting aussies.

Take warrington,blythe,evans holding there own in super league,boom oap aussie back go and play at leigh???????????.

Would our game really be so bad if foreign imports were banned completely????






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 Post subject: Re: Franchising and promotion
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:29 am 
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What are you on about? Any 'Widnes kids' that played that Finsl are still here :CRAZY: it's the others that will be replaced you know like Kohe-Love & Smith?

To add our under 18's beat Warrington at the weekend... How did yours get on?






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 Post subject: Re: Franchising and promotion
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:41 am 
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jesus-is-coming wrote:WHATS THE POINT OF A ACADEMY IF YOU NEVER PLAY THESE KIDS???

At least at leigh we are bringing through the kids to the first team and they are winning on merit,I suppose we could all follow the widnes method win rail cup, off load all players suck up the rl and twiddle thumbs for 2 years.

Franchise is so flawed its beyond belief,Give the championship clubs equal funding as super league as from all I can see is they spend this funding pension boosting aussies.

Take warrington,blythe,evans holding there own in super league,boom oap aussie back go and play at leigh???????????.

That isn't fair to Widnes , they havent done that , I am sure they would have preffered to have built a team , kept it together and build on from there , a individual promotion system allows that to happen , it isn't their fault

As for equal funding , well that also isn't viable , just some funding and some well thought out spending on marketing would be good

Would our game really be so bad if foreign imports were banned completely????






kcab sfrawdder



Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity

Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike




SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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 Post subject: Re: Franchising and promotion
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:59 am 
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Or you could take the Leigh method of doing absolutely nothing for the first two years, go for it final year, fail and hence not be able to apply at all?






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 Post subject: Re: Franchising and promotion
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 12:05 pm 
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J20 wrote:Or you could take the Leigh method of doing absolutely nothing for the first two years, go for it final year, fail and hence not be able to apply at all?


We were trying just as hard the other two years , but like yourselves we weren't good enough , Barrow and Featherstone are the clubs that should have tasted SL in 2010 and 2011






kcab sfrawdder



Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity

Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike




SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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 Post subject: Re: Franchising and promotion
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 12:30 pm 
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Starbug wrote:We were trying just as hard the other two years , but like yourselves we weren't good enough ,


Exactly the 'Widnes have sat back for 2 years' is rubbish. Facts are we reached another NRC final (ok lost it) and have also never missed the play off's too. People like SO'C don't put money in without wanting succcess on the field every season, full stop. As you say we just haven't been good enough!

Starbug wrote:Barrow and Featherstone are the clubs that should have tasted SL in 2010 and 2011


In a sense yes your right, but then again look at Barrow as a club since they won the league :shock: which is why I think a better balance is needed.






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 Post subject: Re: Franchising and promotion
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 12:37 pm 
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J20 wrote:Exactly the 'Widnes have sat back for 2 years' is rubbish. Facts are we reached another NRC final (ok lost it) and have also never missed the play off's too. People like SO'C don't put money in without wanting succcess on the field every season, full stop. As you say we just haven't been good enough!

In a sense yes your right, but then again look at Barrow as a club since they won the league :shock: which is why I think a better balance is needed.


Yes they might have took SL by storm if they had been given the chance






kcab sfrawdder



Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity

Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike




SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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 Post subject: Re: Franchising and promotion
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 12:42 pm 
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Starbug wrote:Yes they might have took SL by storm if they had been given the chance


Aye, guess we'll never know. But they cancelled reserves and are taking the ground down bit by bit which would suggest financial backing (inc numbers through gates etc) wasn't up to it.






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 Post subject: Re: Franchising and promotion
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 12:54 pm 
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J20 wrote:Aye, guess we'll never know. But they cancelled reserves and are taking the ground down bit by bit which would suggest financial backing (inc numbers through gates etc) wasn't up to it.


Would you have denied them the chance ?






kcab sfrawdder



Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity

Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike




SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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