Post subject: Re: just a thought about the 'decline' at the minute
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:49 pm
Mild Rover
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Gordon Gekko wrote:Fact is mate no matter how you dress things up Rovers problems are of their own making and unless there is a big change of direction they will get worse.
I'd rather have these 'challenges' than the problems that would have been risked by taking a SL standard budget for youth development from a NL first team budget.
I don't know how good the structures are, but given Rovers' starting point on this, I'd be surprised if things didn't get better... relative to the rest of SL at least.
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Post subject: Re: just a thought about the 'decline' at the minute
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:27 pm
Gavin Miller - Legend
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willowred wrote:Thats the problem i have Rob he should be downbeat, he should be gutted that we have just rolled over again with very little attacking flair and a mickey poor defence, he should be downbeat that the fans have payed good money and had to watch that load of drivel again. He is the man who can change the team around but he's not hes persisting with his garbage gameplans and playing players out of position. If he was to hear alot of fans views about him last night im sure he would be downbeat
Disagree mate. Im sure he hates losing as much if not more then the fans. But if he walks around with his chin on his knees how would he be able to lift his team. The defeats to Cats,Cas and Salford have been the disapointing games. Wins at Saints are rare and if you but the disapointment to one side Rovers showed big improvement at stages last night
Post subject: Re: just a thought about the 'decline' at the minute
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:11 pm
sandy
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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Disagree mate. Im sure he hates losing as much if not more then the fans. But if he walks around with his chin on his knees how would he be able to lift his team. The defeats to Cats,Cas and Salford have been the disapointing games. Wins at Saints are rare and if you but the disapointment to one side Rovers showed big improvement at stages last night
well said, I agree. The disappointing thing is when we do put it together we do look half decent, I don't buy this idea that we have no flair without dobbo, welham's 1st try last night was as good as anything that will be scored in the league this week for me. The trouble is when we are having our bad spells in games we look positively amatuerish and are leaking lots of points.
Post subject: Re: just a thought about the 'decline' at the minute
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:15 pm
Sandro II Terrorista
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hull smallears wrote:You are alright then, as Dobson will be fit for the Leeds game, certainly Wigan. I wonder if he will play though?
Only if Berrigan's Bitch releases Mason's passport from her knicker drawer...
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Post subject: Re: just a thought about the 'decline' at the minute
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:36 pm
very red robin
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Joined: Mar 22 2009 Posts: 2397 Location: East Hull
Mrs Barista wrote:That's not what I'm saying.
Morgan has spent 5 years building a well-drilled side of non-marquee players and a great reputation off the back of it. Mason is a marquee signing. In my opinion, which I am entitled to, Mason and the cash he requires, would not have been a recruitment priority of Morgan when you already have Newton, Galea, Murrell, Cook, Watts and Taylor to play in the back 3 but, for example, your hooking options are Fisher and Hodgson. Club representatives have spoken a lot about Mason in the context of box office and merchandise. It's not an outrageous suggestion that, given the squad composition before Mason signed, Mason would not have been Morgan's dream signing.
Do you really think that? Fitzy - top try scorer in the NRL before coming over to us just pops into my head for a start. Im not saying hes in the same light as Mason but hes already got the great reputation before he arrived here. We also have afew NRL winners with great reps before coming here - again maybe not in the same limelight as Mason but how many clubs have. My answer is NONE in the last 5 years at least.
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Post subject: Re: just a thought about the 'decline' at the minute
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:57 pm
WormInHand
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phleastyler wrote:A friend of mine brought this up today, one to think about maybe.
The last time we had a bit of unrest/people calling for heads etc was a fair bit after the paul cooke signing and his disruptiveness, apparently a hudgell signing and not one morgan wanted, could this be a similar thing with mason, hudgell looking at the finances he'd potentially bring in etc and not a player morgan necessarily wants?? Not my opinion but made me think about it. maybe a bit of substance to it, i dunno, first game offloading like a good un, nothing like since?
probably just co incidence and 6 year it ago it would have been a pipe dream signing mason but it did make me think a bit about it all!
Thoughts???
Got to say the thought has crossed my mind.
If anything, because of the desperation to get him here at any cost and the unfettered glee when it happened took me straight back to Cookiegate and Hudge's behaviour then.
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well said, I agree. The disappointing thing is when we do put it together we do look half decent, I don't buy this idea that we have no flair without dobbo, welham's 1st try last night was as good as anything that will be scored in the league this week for me. The trouble is when we are having our bad spells in games we look positively amatuerish and are leaking lots of points.
