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colt-45 wrote:If you cast your minds back to the tense waiting game hull f.c had in waiting for approval for Crocker to get the all clear, and after re-representing his application.....Only to be refused at the last hurdle, that the time scales with Mason supposed arrival seem very alike would'nt you say?
I think I might agree with you if I could understand what you where saying.
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colt-45 wrote:If you cast your minds back to the tense waiting game hull f.c had in waiting for approval for Crocker to get the all clear, and after re-representing his application.....Only to be refused at the last hurdle, that the time scales with Mason supposed arrival seem very alike would'nt you say?
Looking back Crocker's initial rejection was Jan 29th 2009, his appeal was kb'd in early May. Both were reported pretty much immediately, so the similarities remain pretty limited, IMO. The more relevant/worrying precedent from that year is Lauaki.
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13rovers wrote:Cough....Crocker......Cough
Nowt to do with competence or incompetence. He had a conviction which necessitates refusal, and UKBA weren't prepared to exercise discretion in his favour. Simple.
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Mild Rover wrote:Looking back Crocker's initial rejection was Jan 29th 2009, his appeal was kb'd in early May. Both were reported pretty much immediately, so the similarities remain pretty limited, IMO. The more relevant/worrying precedent from that year is Lauaki.
It is all a bit mysterious, and I've given my view on previous threads. A decision one way or the other shouldn't take this long so I do wonder what has happened.
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Mild Rover wrote:Looking back Crocker's initial rejection was Jan 29th 2009, his appeal was kb'd in early May. Both were reported pretty much immediately, so the similarities remain pretty limited, IMO. The more relevant/worrying precedent from that year is Lauaki.
If Mason applied for his visa using his Tongan nationality then he would need to supply evidence that he spoke English. Lauaki's delay was largely due to the fact that he/FC weren't aware of this until after he had already submitted his application and so he had to go take a test and send on the results as supplementary documentation. As this was widely discussed in the media at the time one assumes that Rovers would have made sure that all the boxes were ticked before submitting the application.
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Kosh wrote: As this was widely discussed in the media at the time one assumes that Rovers would have made sure that all the boxes were ticked before submitting the application.
I wouldn't, I'm also not all that confident of him passing.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
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