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 Post subject: Re: The Wakefield Situation.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:30 am 
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rednwhite wrote:what Huddersfield have done its underhand and unethical it really annoys me how disrespectful and arrogant motives they have shown Wakefield. i acknowledge there is rivalries between the two. but rl is a family and pooing on their doorstep is unacceptable while on they have put themselves on a high horse and strutting.


Nothing underhand or unethical at all. In the absence of someone stumping up the cash and buying wakey the administrators have made it known that players are available and Hull / Huddersfield / Catalans have made signings and other clubs are looking at other wakey players.

The idiotic rumour that ken davy is scheming to sign wakey U18s is laughable. That anyone would believe it is funnier still.

I think that not paying creditors for their services /products is 'underhand' and puts jobs at risk. Also failing to pay £300K+ tax at a time when cuts are being made in public services is appalling. Thankfully the administrator is trying pay a proportion of these debts.

It is also underhand when a club fails to honour player contracts....remind me which club poo'd on its own players in such a way :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: The Wakefield Situation.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:15 am 
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Easty wrote:Hasn't RBA already stated that this isn't a trolling or points scoring thread. For once leave your hatred of Hull KR aside FFS.

You saw fit, and been allowed, to use inappropriately emotive language, accusing Huddersfield and Hull of "raping" a club in trouble. If you are going to take such an accusatory and self-righteous stance about putting clubs in a precarious position in further danger, my point is a valid right of reply.

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 Post subject: Re: The Wakefield Situation.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:42 am 
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Ceejames wrote:Nothing underhand or unethical at all. In the absence of someone stumping up the cash and buying wakey the administrators have made it known that players are available and Hull / Huddersfield / Catalans have made signings and other clubs are looking at other wakey players.

The idiotic rumour that ken davy is scheming to sign wakey U18s is laughable. That anyone would believe it is funnier still.

I think that not paying creditors for their services /products is 'underhand' and puts jobs at risk. Also failing to pay £300K+ tax at a time when cuts are being made in public services is appalling. Thankfully the administrator is trying pay a proportion of these debts.

It is also underhand when a club fails to honour player contracts....remind me which club poo'd on its own players in such a way :wink:


But the question remains why are we being forced to sell everything to pay some of these debts when the same administrator allowed Crusaders to write off every penny of their debts except the £700k they owed the RFL.






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 Post subject: Re: The Wakefield Situation.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:17 am 
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How do you know they wrote off all their debts and did not come to some arrangement with creditors? Perhaps they used some of the money they owe the RFL to pay the creditors a percentage. And before you say well the RFL would not lend us any money, well it was a secured loan on their ground, and due to the bad management and the chasing of the SL dream your club do not own a ground to use as security. Also perhaps their creditors took the view that as they(moss and co) inherited the debts and tried to keep the company going for a year without thus trying to meet the creditors needs, that they would be more lenient with them. Even so the debts were not theirs moss and co tried to keep the company going. Two completely different situations

When will people learn that SL is a franchise system now, and the RFL and the Clubs to some extent will chose the clubs they want in the league and at the moment the expansion clubs will get preferential treatment, the fact is they are not even in the picture as to who would lose their license and never were.

It may seem unfair to Joe public, but the fact is that these are the rules of the competition now, no point bitching about Crusaders. And what is more they have arguably achieved more than you in many other areas of their franchise anyway, for a club in its infancy to get the crowds they do is encouraging, they have brought a good few welsh players through to first team already, they are taking our game to a new audience, improving on the pitch, and so on and so on.

What real growth have Wakefield made in the 12 or so years they have been in super league?

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 Post subject: Re: The Wakefield Situation.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:54 am 
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Sheldon wrote:I'm lost a bit bud, do you mean their signing of Ferguson or their interest in the young lads?
both really sheldon but the young lads crossed the line for me its asset stripping as for mrs b i wont lower myself full stop. i hope wakefield can rebuild their side in time and their club. :thumb:

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If anything was certain to undermine or expose the myth of the rugby league family, it was franchising.

I feel for Wakefield as they look poised for the most prolonged and inevitable relegation ever. They were unlucky that Pickles didn't rubber stamp their stadium and now O'Hara's have decided that the best thing for Wakey's creditors is partial liquidisation (they may well be correct of course - they're the professionals).






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Mrs Barista wrote:You saw fit, and been allowed, to use inappropriately emotive language, accusing Huddersfield and Hull of "raping" a club in trouble. If you are going to take such an accusatory and self-righteous stance about putting clubs in a precarious position in further danger, my point is a valid right of reply.


Then argue the point - rebut the accusation of rape (which was clearly metaphorical, btw). Dragging in overseas players and Willie Mason's non-arrival turns it into diversionary trolling. And we've talked about that. :wink:

The AUP is to a certain degree open to interpretation. Your's is an opinion, on here RBA's is the rule. :)






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R.B.A wrote:Along with most fans i would imagine, i have been watching with interest the apparent fire sale going on at Wakefield over the past couple of days. It is a pretty sad situation and it doesnt sit well with me watching clubs taking advantage of the situation and almost certainly signing players off them on the cheap.
I would like to see Rovers buck the trend and offer some of our fringe players to them on loan in order to plug the gaps by the departures. It wouldnt be a totally selfless act because we would see players like Cook etc get valuable game time at Super League level so that they are up to speed when we need them.
Thoughts?


get off your moral high horse particularly when you were talking to Aaron Murphy :CRAZY:






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Durham Giant wrote:get off your moral high horse particularly when you were talking to Aaron Murphy :CRAZY:


Why would Rovers be talking to Aaron Murphy??

Think you may have mistaken Rovers for Hull. :wink:






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rednwhite wrote:both really sheldon but the young lads crossed the line for me its asset stripping as for mrs b i wont lower myself full stop. i hope wakefield can rebuild their side in time and their club. :thumb:


One wakey poster alleges this and you go off on one :D Try a bit of research before you draw conclusions and you will not make such an ass of yourself.

In the the pre season friendlies we played our young lads against the wakey first team at Belle Vue and beat them 16- 24 - and the margin should have been bigger. Our young lads are better than their first team never mind their youngsters :roll:

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