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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:22 pm 
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Big Dave T wrote:But if the one that is a makeshift hooker does a job for 30-40 mins in the game that allows Houghton to win us a game in his 40 mins then i think it's the move to make.

Lets say for example: (1)
min 0-20 Washy plays 9. He is 60% effective because he's not a hooker
20-40 Houghton plays 9 off the bench. He is 95% effective

40-60 Washy back on. 50% effective
60-80 Houghton back on. 85% effective
Total out of a possible 400% = 290% (avg of 72.5%)

Alternative example 2
Houghton plays 0-80 and is 60% effective due to fatigue
Total out of a possible 400% = 240% (avg of 60%)


Alternative example 3
Houghton plays 0-30 mins at 75% (down from 95% in option 1 due to longer spell)
Washy plays 30-60 mins at 60%
Houghton plays 60-80 mins at 60%
Total possible out of 400% = 262.5% (avg of 65.6%)

Obviously my numbers are slightly bias to win my arguement but again for me this kind of makes sense. :D



Okaaay...

I'm on board as long as you are certain Washy is 60% effective and not 50 or 70% :wink: :)






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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:56 pm 
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Big Dave T wrote:But if the one that is a makeshift hooker does a job for 30-40 mins in the game that allows Houghton to win us a game in his 40 mins then i think it's the move to make.

Lets say for example: (1)
min 0-20 Washy plays 9. He is 60% effective because he's not a hooker
20-40 Houghton plays 9 off the bench. He is 95% effective

40-60 Washy back on. 50% effective
60-80 Houghton back on. 85% effective
Total out of a possible 400% = 290% (avg of 72.5%)

Alternative example 2
Houghton plays 0-80 and is 60% effective due to fatigue
Total out of a possible 400% = 240% (avg of 60%)

Alternative example 3
Houghton plays 0-30 mins at 75% (down from 95% in option 1 due to longer spell)
Washy plays 30-60 mins at 60%
Houghton plays 60-80 mins at 60%
Total possible out of 400% = 262.5% (avg of 65.6%)

Obviously my numbers are slightly bias to win my arguement but again for me this kind of makes sense. :D


But the way I see that is the best Washbrook offers is being 60% effective, whilst the least Houghton offers is 60%. And in my book a 60% Houghton is still a better player than a 60% Washbrook, so just abandon the Washbrook idea then. :wink:

In all seriousness though, I don't think we'll gain more from Houghton on bench than we'll lose by starting Washbrook. If we had another actual hooker, I'd agree wholeheartedly.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:47 am 
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WormInHand wrote:Okaaay...

I'm on board as long as you are certain Washy is 60% effective and not 50 or 70% :wink: :)


He could surprise you all and be 90%!! :)

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carl_spackler wrote:In all seriousness though, I don't think we'll gain more from Houghton on bench than we'll lose by starting Washbrook. If we had another actual hooker, I'd agree wholeheartedly.


And thats the crux of the arguement really. I'd favour using a player in their best position in the 17 even with a guy starting who's not a recognised hooker. You wouldn't i think is the summary! :lol:

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Big Dave T wrote:And thats the crux of the arguement really. I'd favour using a player in their best position in the 17 even with a guy starting who's not a recognised hooker. You wouldn't i think is the summary! :lol:


I think the main point is none of us have a clue how well Washy will go as a hooker and on that basis your better players should start the game. Plus Berro might even play hooker yet!






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PAUL M wrote:I think the main point is none of us have a clue how well Washy will go as a hooker and on that basis your better players should start the game. Plus Berro might even play hooker yet!


fookin hope not!

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Me too but hey this is Hull FC :lol:






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Big Dave T wrote:And thats the crux of the arguement really. I'd favour using a player in their best position in the 17 even with a guy starting who's not a recognised hooker. You wouldn't i think is the summary! :lol:


An accurate summary. I just think that Houghton should play as many minutes as he can effectively managed, the best way to do that being him starting the game and only coming off when he starts to flag. Starting with Washbrook not only weakens the starting lineup, it also means possible wasted game time from Houghton, which we can't afford IMO.

It seems I don't think there's as much difference in Houghton's perfromances from the start or from the bench as you do, nor have as much confidence in the job Washbrook can do there. I think it will take a while and a fair bit of work from Washbrook to look like a hooker, if he ever can.

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Berrigan is a Clive Churchill medal winner, former SOO, NRL Grand Final winning Hooker, only Hull FC and it's fans would end up shoving him back in the centres.
He's twice the Hooker Houghton is.

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east hull FC fan wrote:Berrigan is a Clive Churchill medal winner, former SOO, NRL Grand Final winning Hooker, only Hull FC and it's fans would end up shoving him back in the centres.
He's twice the Hooker Houghton is.


They're the same ones who claim he isn't very good but ignore the fact that he's been playing with shiite players and no game plan since he arrived






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