FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home Hull FC Squad Numbers 2011...



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 212 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ... 22  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Squad Numbers 2011...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:24 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jul 25 2008
Posts: 14158
Problem is though, because we have 12 inter-changes, there's a lot of swapping about around the 20-30 min mark. So Houghton won't be as effective in the first half anyway.
My strategy would be to start Houghton to try and get us on the front foot, bring Washy on after 25 and then let Houghton back for the last 25 when defences really are tiring.
This also gives us options in the 2nd row if injuries happen during a game.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad Numbers 2011...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:46 pm 
Rugby League Immortal
Rugby League Immortal

Joined: Oct 15 2003
Posts: 53839
Location: North Yorkshire
Big Dave T wrote:Guess it depends what the desired effect is. Do argue from a different angle, do you want your star player to be on the pitch for more minutes or do you want them to be on the pitch for less minutes if it makes them a more effective player? If for example we played Fitz at prop for 50 min instead of 13 for 80 mins and it made him more effective in the 50 mins he was on isnt that better?

Guess thats my arguement with Houghton. I'd sooner see him play 40 mins at 95% than 60 mins at 80%. I'd also want to see him operate when it plays to his strengths and i still firmly believe he needs to come off the bench and take the line on when both the square markers and the defensive line are tiring a little bit.


I take your point and agree to an extent but we are not talking about two hookers, we have one hooker and one makeshift hooker. For me Houghton has to start the game and be on the pitch longer unless Washy settles into the role really quickly.






Twitter - @MaddyHFC

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad Numbers 2011...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:26 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 14 2003
Posts: 26013
Location: Back in Hull.
Washy at hooker is an interesting one.

Defence is good enough, has good hands, strong go foward.

Not sure his distribution is it quick enough somes times he seems a bit laboured.

Houghton has to start as his all around hooking game is much better than Washbrook, including defence *see stats.

But if we are to play Berrigan at centre, we need someone on the bench who can come on if needed, the good thing about having Washbrook there is that he can cover other position aswell, if the squad stays the same I would give him a couple of warm up games at hooker to see how he goes.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad Numbers 2011...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:05 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 31 2004
Posts: 29160
Location: Hull
PAUL M wrote:I take your point and agree to an extent but we are not talking about two hookers, we have one hooker and one makeshift hooker. For me Houghton has to start the game and be on the pitch longer unless Washy settles into the role really quickly.


But if the one that is a makeshift hooker does a job for 30-40 mins in the game that allows Houghton to win us a game in his 40 mins then i think it's the move to make.

Lets say for example: (1)
min 0-20 Washy plays 9. He is 60% effective because he's not a hooker
20-40 Houghton plays 9 off the bench. He is 95% effective

40-60 Washy back on. 50% effective
60-80 Houghton back on. 85% effective
Total out of a possible 400% = 290% (avg of 72.5%)

Alternative example 2
Houghton plays 0-80 and is 60% effective due to fatigue
Total out of a possible 400% = 240% (avg of 60%)

Alternative example 3
Houghton plays 0-30 mins at 75% (down from 95% in option 1 due to longer spell)
Washy plays 30-60 mins at 60%
Houghton plays 60-80 mins at 60%
Total possible out of 400% = 262.5% (avg of 65.6%)

Obviously my numbers are slightly bias to win my arguement but again for me this kind of makes sense. :D

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad Numbers 2011...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:38 am 
Club Owner
Club Owner

Joined: Mar 28 2005
Posts: 20992
Location: THE HOME CITY OF LUKE CAMPBELL OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALIST
Whiting to Full-back and Tansey to share hooking dutys anyone?






“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.

Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.

"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad Numbers 2011...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:49 am 
Rugby League Immortal
Rugby League Immortal

Joined: Oct 15 2003
Posts: 53839
Location: North Yorkshire
Big Dave T wrote:But if the one that is a makeshift hooker does a job for 30-40 mins in the game that allows Houghton to win us a game in his 40 mins then i think it's the move to make.

Lets say for example: (1)
min 0-20 Washy plays 9. He is 60% effective because he's not a hooker
20-40 Houghton plays 9 off the bench. He is 95% effective

40-60 Washy back on. 50% effective
60-80 Houghton back on. 85% effective
Total out of a possible 400% = 290% (avg of 72.5%)

Alternative example 2
Houghton plays 0-80 and is 60% effective due to fatigue
Total out of a possible 400% = 240% (avg of 60%)

Alternative example 3
Houghton plays 0-30 mins at 75% (down from 95% in option 1 due to longer spell)
Washy plays 30-60 mins at 60%
Houghton plays 60-80 mins at 60%
Total possible out of 400% = 262.5% (avg of 65.6%)

Obviously my numbers are slightly bias to win my arguement but again for me this kind of makes sense. :D



You're a freak! :lol: :wink:






Twitter - @MaddyHFC

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad Numbers 2011...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:50 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 31 2004
Posts: 29160
Location: Hull
fc baldy wrote:Whiting to Full-back and Tansey to share hooking dutys anyone?


Do you want me to map out another scenario like the one above with Tansey sharing the hooker duties? :lol:

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad Numbers 2011...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:51 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 31 2004
Posts: 29160
Location: Hull
PAUL M wrote:You're a freak! :lol: :wink:


Those are my thought processes!! Freakish they may be, but i think they're right!! :lol:

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad Numbers 2011...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:58 am 
International Board Member
Club Captain

Joined: Jul 30 2003
Posts: 3648
Big Dave T wrote:But if the one that is a makeshift hooker does a job for 30-40 mins in the game that allows Houghton to win us a game in his 40 mins then i think it's the move to make.

Lets say for example: (1)
min 0-20 Washy plays 9. He is 60% effective because he's not a hooker
20-40 Houghton plays 9 off the bench. He is 95% effective

40-60 Washy back on. 50% effective
60-80 Houghton back on. 85% effective
Total out of a possible 400% = 290% (avg of 72.5%)

Alternative example 2
Houghton plays 0-80 and is 60% effective due to fatigue
Total out of a possible 400% = 240% (avg of 60%)

Alternative example 3
Houghton plays 0-30 mins at 75% (down from 95% in option 1 due to longer spell)
Washy plays 30-60 mins at 60%
Houghton plays 60-80 mins at 60%
Total possible out of 400% = 262.5% (avg of 65.6%)

Obviously my numbers are slightly bias to win my arguement but again for me this kind of makes sense. :D


:shock: :lol:

Way too much time on your hands....






If you are not part of the solution then you are more likely part of the problem...

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad Numbers 2011...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:01 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 31 2004
Posts: 29160
Location: Hull
knocker norton wrote::shock: :lol:

Way too much time on your hands....


2 and a half weeks of my notice period left and i've handed all of my work over!! Happy days! :lol:

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 212 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ... 22  Next





It is currently Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:57 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Bullsmad, ComeOnYouUll, DarksideDave, Hasbag, hull2524, Jake the Peg, TnT and 177 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:57 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Wigan Warriors - Home
TnT
177
12m
Players on Report
Dr Dreadnoug
5
17m
Wakefield Trinity Heritage Podcast - Season 4
JamieRobinso
14
44m
Hull FC A
Geese
29
57m
Rumours and signings v9
Geese
29255
Recent
Cornwall sign Duel registration with London Broncos
Huddersfield
1
Recent
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
Recent
Max Jowitt extends contract
Huddersfield
1
Recent
Ben Davies returns to Saints
Huddersfield
1
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Leyther in n
2
Recent
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Builth Wells
16
Recent
Tonights game v Catalan
Alffi_7
36
Recent
New Disciplinary Process
Jukesays
9
Recent
Sam Burgess
matt_wire
11
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65281
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1s
Leeds v Wakefield
brantonrhino
197
3s
Rumours and signings v9
Geese
29255
4s
Hull FC A
Geese
29
5s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65281
8s
RL Challenge Cup
tad rhino
88
10s
Recruitment rumours and links
BOSS HOG
3921
11s
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
Les Dyl's re
35
23s
Film game
karetaker
8020
25s
Social Media
alegend
51
26s
Sam Burgess
matt_wire
11
26s
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
The Avenger
7
30s
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
brantonrhino
59
32s
Wigan Warriors - Home
TnT
177
33s
TV Games - Not Hull
B0NES
3340
36s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41800
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Cornwall sign Duel registration with London Broncos
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Max Jowitt extends contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Ben Davies returns to Saints
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
The big screens
Jake the Peg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC To Get Season Underway
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Super league plus
BOSS HOG
2
TODAY
Players on Report
Dr Dreadnoug
5
TODAY
Tonights game v Catalan
Alffi_7
36
TODAY
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
The Avenger
7
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Leyther in n
2
TODAY
League position
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
1895 cup
Torbreck
4
TODAY
Sam Burgess
matt_wire
11
TODAY
Well played wakey
Scarlet Pimp
4
TODAY
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Points At Wakefield Trinity
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Is the HKR Game still on
PopTart
8
TODAY
Forum at The Shay
faxcar
37
TODAY
Matchday Food and Drink
karetaker
7
TODAY
Lewis Murphy
FIL
5
TODAY
Squad for Catalan
ratticusfinc
35
TODAY
Hull FC A
Geese
29
TODAY
Improving crowds
Deadcowboys1
5
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Dr Dreadnoug
13
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC ..
144
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Po..
315
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
550
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
663
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
961
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
727
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
515
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
754
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
927
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
936
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
981
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
920
Betfred Super League Season Se..
1116
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
1091
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1698
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull FC
Sat 22nd Mar
SL
15:00
Castleford-Catalans
SL
17:30
Leeds-Wigan
Fri 21st Feb
SL 2 Warrington18-12Catalans
SL 2 Hull FC4-46Wigan
Thu 20th Feb
SL2 Wakefield12-14Hull KR
Sun 16th Feb
SL 1 Huddersfield12-20Warrington
CH 1 Bradford20-6LondonB
CH 1 Featherstone22-4Doncaster
CH 1 Oldham50-4York
CH 1 Sheffield14-28Halifax
CH 1 Barrow36-12Hunslet
1895 0 Goole V26-18Crusaders
1895 0 Workington10-18Dewsbury
1895 0 Rochdale18-16Swinton
1895 0 Keighley7-6Midlands
Sat 15th Feb
SL1 Leeds12-14Wakefield
SL 1 St.Helens82-0Salford
CH 1 Toulouse14-18Widnes
Fri 14th Feb
SL 1 Hull KR19-18Castleford
SL 1 Catalans4-24Hull FC
Thu 13th Feb
SL 1 Wigan0-1Leigh
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Wigan Warriors - Home
TnT
177
12m
Players on Report
Dr Dreadnoug
5
17m
Wakefield Trinity Heritage Podcast - Season 4
JamieRobinso
14
44m
Hull FC A
Geese
29
57m
Rumours and signings v9
Geese
29255
Recent
Cornwall sign Duel registration with London Broncos
Huddersfield
1
Recent
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
Recent
Max Jowitt extends contract
Huddersfield
1
Recent
Ben Davies returns to Saints
Huddersfield
1
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Leyther in n
2
Recent
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Builth Wells
16
Recent
Tonights game v Catalan
Alffi_7
36
Recent
New Disciplinary Process
Jukesays
9
Recent
Sam Burgess
matt_wire
11
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65281
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1s
Leeds v Wakefield
brantonrhino
197
3s
Rumours and signings v9
Geese
29255
4s
Hull FC A
Geese
29
5s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65281
8s
RL Challenge Cup
tad rhino
88
10s
Recruitment rumours and links
BOSS HOG
3921
11s
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
Les Dyl's re
35
23s
Film game
karetaker
8020
25s
Social Media
alegend
51
26s
Sam Burgess
matt_wire
11
26s
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
The Avenger
7
30s
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
brantonrhino
59
32s
Wigan Warriors - Home
TnT
177
33s
TV Games - Not Hull
B0NES
3340
36s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41800
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Cornwall sign Duel registration with London Broncos
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Max Jowitt extends contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Ben Davies returns to Saints
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
The big screens
Jake the Peg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC To Get Season Underway
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Super league plus
BOSS HOG
2
TODAY
Players on Report
Dr Dreadnoug
5
TODAY
Tonights game v Catalan
Alffi_7
36
TODAY
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
The Avenger
7
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Leyther in n
2
TODAY
League position
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
1895 cup
Torbreck
4
TODAY
Sam Burgess
matt_wire
11
TODAY
Well played wakey
Scarlet Pimp
4
TODAY
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Points At Wakefield Trinity
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Is the HKR Game still on
PopTart
8
TODAY
Forum at The Shay
faxcar
37
TODAY
Matchday Food and Drink
karetaker
7
TODAY
Lewis Murphy
FIL
5
TODAY
Squad for Catalan
ratticusfinc
35
TODAY
Hull FC A
Geese
29
TODAY
Improving crowds
Deadcowboys1
5
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Dr Dreadnoug
13
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC ..
144
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Po..
315
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
550
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
663
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
961
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
727
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
515
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
754
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
927
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
936
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
981
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
920
Betfred Super League Season Se..
1116
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
1091
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1698


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.