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pugwash pal wrote:Fec off upton cat. You are club going into the National league so what the hell do you know. Rovers site this so P off brain dead.
Any way the point to the post was how crap England where and if our players would make a difference.
Slightly excessive don't you think?
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General.., i know everyone has there own ideas and teams but you cannot seriously suggest picking Rob Burrow as a sub hooker in place one of our very few players that come near the region of world class i.e James Roby...??? I can just about go with Sinfield based on last years four nations...but Burrow...???? He will be lucky to make the Leeds 13 next year given a fully fit squad...
And Roby is a shoe-in for any international team of the foreseeable future..
Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Mild Rover wrote:Slightly excessive don't you think?
More of an utter spanner, I would think.
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Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
pmh wrote:More of an utter spanner, I would think.
I'm generous of spirit.
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Reet, I'll have a punt, and when you try, it's quite difficult.
Cudjoe. Hall Briscoe Gleeson Fox Tomkins Eastmond Graham Robinson Peacock Ellis Westwood Burgess
Roby Morley Crabtree O'Loughlin
Still really not happy with that, and I've put at least a minute's thought into it. There has to be a place for Leon Pryce, he's our best runner in broken field but we do need to maximise our forward strength.
Thoughts? (Other than saying that's an utter shizzle team pmh)
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Larry Billey wrote:General.., i know everyone has there own ideas and teams but you cannot seriously suggest picking Rob Burrow as a sub hooker in place one of our very few players that come near the region of world class i.e James Roby...??? I can just about go with Sinfield based on last years four nations...but Burrow...???? He will be lucky to make the Leeds 13 next year given a fully fit squad...
And Roby is a shoe-in for any international team of the foreseeable future..
I'd play Sinfield @ hooker for 55/60mins out of the 80 and utilise Burrows in a couple of 10/12min spells running up the middle - I think he'd be more effective than Roby in this specific role because of his lightening speed off the mark.
Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25935 Location: Back in Hull.
General Zod. wrote:I'd play Sinfield @ hooker for 55/60mins out of the 80 and utilise Burrows in a couple of 10/12min spells running up the middle - I think he'd be more effective than Roby in this specific role because of his lightening speed off the mark.
Really
I agree with sinfield, but to drop the best hooker by far with have for a player who has been poor for the last 2 years to play in a position that he doesn't play would be shocking choice.
I quite like Brough, but the best 2 halfbacks we have, if Tomkins is FB is Mcguire and Eastmond.
I agree with sinfield, but to drop the best hooker by far with have for a player who has been poor for the last 2 years to play in a position that he doesn't play would be shocking choice.
I quite like Brough, but the best 2 halfbacks we have, if Tomkins is FB is Mcguire and Eastmond.
Problem you have with a half back pairing of Tompkins and Eastmond is neither are particularly good kickers. This is something we lack in England is a HB that can kick good field position with the exception of Brough (who's not that good in the other aspects of 7 play). Until we get a HB who can control a game game with good positional kicking we'll struggle, its no good having a good pack and then having a HB who kicks down the throat of Billy Slater all game.
Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25935 Location: Back in Hull.
[quote="barham red Problem you have with a half back pairing of Tompkins and Eastmond is neither are particularly good kickers. This is something we lack in England is a HB that can kick good field position with the exception of Brough (who's not that good in the other aspects of 7 play). Until we get a HB who can control a game game with good positional kicking we'll struggle, its no good having a good pack and then having a HB who kicks down the throat of Billy Slater all game.[/quote]
Eastmond has a decent kicking game I have been quite impressed when i have sen him for Saints.
Most the kicking would be done by Sinfield, when he is on the pitch.
Deacon has a great kicking game, but was poor when he played for GB as the rest of his game like Brough's isn't good enough for the international games.
With the injuries I would have taken Brough to Aus this time though.
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