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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:47 pm 
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:You missed out the Dutch national team coach from the list who think it was a nasty challenge. I guess he's probably a bitter United fan though? .


According to a number of Dutch fans on various blogs, he has used De Jong as a scapegoat, over what happened in the WC. Whether that’s the case or not, I don’t know.

What I do know is that it was a poor piece of man-management.


Quote: I don't think De Jong meant to cause injury. I think he went in hard knowing he'd take out Ben Arfa as well as the ball and make him wonder for the rest of the match where the next hit was coming from. 5 years ago that would have been fine. But it isn't 2005 now. We've had years of FIFA directives that ball and all tackles were outlawed and players couldn't dive in to challenges like that. .


My own personal opinion is that intimidation and using physical power and presence on a football field, is part of a footballers arsenal. Football is not just about pace, trickery and intelligence. It’s about power too. As long as that is used without intent to seriously injure or to simply carry out a violent act, then that’s fair.

As for FIFA clamping down on hard tackles, I fail to see how De Jong’s tackle could be seen as illegal.



Quote:And the two broken legs that De Jong has dished out this year is the exact reason why FIFA have clamped down.


You missed out the Japanese player whose ankle he broke and the

He does need to calm down but I believe the main reason he has caused these injuries is due to the fact that he goes to ground so often.

The Alonso tackle was a strange one. I have never seen him tackle like that for City. If I am honest, I don’t think I have seen him go out to ‘do’ someone. He’s no Roy Keane or Karl Henry. Palacios is far worse than De Jong.

His tackling technique sometimes reminds me of Brian Robson, although the latter got away with murder as he was a key player for England. Robson’s timing was also never as good, especially later on in his career.






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RedTez wrote:De Jong's tackling technique is poor. Actually not poor, dangerous. Did he try to injure Ben Arfa? I'd be confident in saying no. Does he put opposition players at risk every time he takes the field due to his poor judgment and technique? Yes.

I'd probably say Wilkinson and Henry are dirtier players - IMHO they go out to hurt players. De Jong just lacks the technique to tackle and the football brain to time a challenge well. That does not excuse the challenges he makes though. 2 broken legs in a year is more than just unlucky.



Can’t agree at all.

De Jong is not the best footballer, but he can be very effective. Against teams from the bottom half, he is a passenger who slows the game down. Against the top 4 he is pretty much our best player every game along with Tevez. Some of his performances against the top 4 have been brilliant. Not bad for someone with no ‘football brain’ and poor tackling technique.

You do know that part of the problem is officiating – i.e. when has a player been fouled / not fouled. Why do they have such a hard time? Well, for a number of reasons. One of them being the am0unt of diving that goes on. Probably the two of the worst offenders during the life time of the PL are Nani and Ronaldo. Now you tell me how United have produced the two worst offenders for diving that I have watched in the PL? A coincidence? It’s clubs like United that encourage players to dive.






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Is this the kind of 'scissor' challenge you were talking about?

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Surely Steven Gerrard is the worst diver the premiership has ever seen? He's had some epics that lad.

Oh and Steven Taylor's Platoon effort.

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oggy123 wrote:yeah but the thing is they been there done it unlike the rest of us on here so we cant really call them. And no offence but it take someones word who has played PL football before somebody off a message board. How united fans cann call DeJong whenthey had the dirtiest naughty person ever play football ( Roy Keane) is beyond me


Not understanding why you have brought up Roy Keane. If Keane did a bad challenge he generally got slapped with a ban. In fact I seem to remember him getting a 2nd ban a year or so after the Haaland challenge because he stated in his book that he went out to 'do' him.

The main crux of this argument seems to be that De Jong has got away with his challenge. I think Robbie Rotten has put it best.

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El Pac Carnegie wrote:Not understanding why you have brought up Roy Keane. If Keane did a bad challenge he generally got slapped with a ban. In fact I seem to remember him getting a 2nd ban a year or so after the Haaland challenge because he stated in his book that he went out to 'do' him.

The main crux of this argument seems to be that De Jong has got away with his challenge. I think Robbie Rotten has put it best.

City fans deflect all they can back to United. It's one of those things.

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Enfield Exile wrote:

You do know that part of the problem is officiating – i.e. when has a player been fouled / not fouled. Why do they have such a hard time? Well, for a number of reasons. One of them being the am0unt of diving that goes on. Probably the two of the worst offenders during the life time of the PL are Nani and Ronaldo. Now you tell me how United have produced the two worst offenders for diving that I have watched in the PL? A coincidence? It’s clubs like United that encourage players to dive.

Ben Thatcher and NDJ, two of the worst, most dangerous tacklers in the perm in recent times. Do City encourage players to break limbs? :wink:

Fair play on deflecting the blame of a City hacker breaking a talented players leg, to two of the more talented, under protected players the PL has seen!

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Not an overly bad challenege imo. Caught him with the trailing leg, thats all.

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Open warfare in the Liverpool boardroom at the moment.

http://www.lfc.tv/news/latest-news/liverpool-fc-statement-3
Open warfare in the Liverpool boardroom at the moment.

http://www.lfc.tv/news/latest-news/liverpool-fc-statement-3






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Billinge_Lump wrote:Open warfare in the Liverpool boardroom at the moment.

http://www.lfc.tv/news/latest-news/liverpool-fc-statement-3


A desperate move by two desperate men, they're on their way out and they know it.
Billinge_Lump wrote:Open warfare in the Liverpool boardroom at the moment.

http://www.lfc.tv/news/latest-news/liverpool-fc-statement-3


A desperate move by two desperate men, they're on their way out and they know it.

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