Posted it 9 minutes too late mate!!

Buggar!

Spot on, I wish you would stop talking like this though as it means I have to agree with you again

The only people I've seen saying it was a bad tackle is Ash and LGJM. I just don't see it. If you look at the challenge as it happens in full speed and it looks a good but hard tackle in which De Jong gets the ball and with the impact he gets the man, unfortunately in this case Ben Arfa breaks his leg. I still believe had Ben Arfa not broken his leg we wouldn't even be talking about it, it's trial by injury and because of who made the tackle. I would bet there was 5 or 6 worse tackles than this at the weekend in which a player wasn't injured at all.

De Jong's tackling technique is poor. Actually not poor, dangerous. Did he try to injure Ben Arfa? I'd be confident in saying no. Does he put opposition players at risk every time he takes the field due to his poor judgment and technique? Yes.

I'd probably say Wilkinson and Henry are dirtier players - IMHO they go out to hurt players. De Jong just lacks the technique to tackle and the football brain to time a challenge well. That does not excuse the challenges he makes though. 2 broken legs in a year is more than just unlucky.

ill agree in a way but i think he looks abad tackler because most of the players in the PL are scared too put there foot in there. Like the old saying goes if you dont go in flly commited you get hurt which i agree with. De Jong recives som bad challenges himself but shrugs them off there nothing better than seeing a good hard battle in the midfeild. Barton and De jong went in for 50/50 the hardest i seen all year and none of them cae out injured cause they both went in commited. Too many players put there self at risk with the positions they get into IMO

What is he supposed to do with his other leg? it's bound to come into contact with Ben Arfa and this time he was unfortunate to break his leg. Is he not supposed to go into the tackle incase someone gets injured? should be completely ban tackling incase injuries occur? he goes into the tackle, takes the ball and his follow through he come into contact with Ben Arfa it happens so often and 9 times out of ten the player being tackled won't be injured. If he hadn't broken a leg or been injured we wouldn't even be discussing this I don't think mate.

When we played Villa earlier this season Warnock went into a tackle on Rodwell, got the ball and in the follow through got the man too - we didn't get a foul for it and because of the tackle Rodwell will be out until January time with ligament injury - 4 months out, injuries happen.

I agree with all of that.

Just because there is no intention doesn't make it a bad tackle/technique.

There are some dirty $hithouses managing to steal a living in the PL at the moment whilst risking other professionals' careers. I'm not saying De Jong is one, because I don't believe he is, but the FA, PL et al need to take control over the situation otherwise we might soon be talking about somebody's career being ended rather than a season-long injury.



This statement is, quite frankly, stupid.

It was a poor technique in the tackle that caused the injury, there was no 'art' in it at all.

All footballers owe it to their fellow pro's that they are always being safe and not putting their health at risk. De Jong can't defend himself, he's a dirty player and his challenges on Alonso etc. prove that. If he knows he can't control himself, he shouldn't go into sliding tackles, it's that simple. He does it too often, IMO, for there not to be intent, I don't think anyone would wish a double leg break, but I feel he goes in every time to show the opposition how tough he is, abusing the woeful refereeing we have to get away with it. It's just like van Bommel, he's the same, a dirty player who does it too often to not have intentions, yet people always feel sorry for the player who done the challenge after it happens.

De Jong deserves everything he gets, from the ruthless criticism to getting dropped from the Dutch squad. The media need to get their heads out of their backsides as well and start ruthlessly laying into players for this, the approach the media has to this is truly embarrassing, anyone who takes Collymore, Claridge and co. as a source of good knowledge should really take a good look at themselves, they are thick imbeciles who only get a job due to the numbness of those that appoint them. It's time for things to be more professional and more appropriate, those plonkers don't deserve any airtime/column inches.

yeah but the thing is they been there done it unlike the rest of us on here so we cant really call them. And no offence but it take someones word who has played PL football before somebody off a message board. How united fans cann call DeJong whenthey had the dirtiest naughty person ever play football ( Roy Keane) is beyond me