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 Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:59 pm 
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very red robin wrote:Im not saying what you have done as not gone unnoticed; i signed it myself so you obviously got to some - all im getting at is that is was passed about around the East Stand and some people were taking the Michael, id like to see how many of that 10k has been signed by Mickey Mouse and the likes.

Would of been nice to see more people get involved, yes i know plenty of us have other things and issues but im sure more fans could of helped; surely Prescott could of done something to help or at least give abit of advice on the best ways to go about it.

Like i say, dont get me wrong i think youve done a cracking job. But it would be nice just to see how many you could get signed if you had the right help and backing, reckon you'd be looking at double what you got easy.



We deleted all the Mickey Mouse's/ Ben Dover etc etc, as for people getting involved...did you offer??

We continually kept asking for help...but no-one came forward....and until you even attempt to do something like this, I don't think you appreciate how hard it is....we are grateful for your signature and your support, but find it very dis-heartening that you criticise our efforts.... :(

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 Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:46 pm 
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Why have the club distanced themselves from this petition?

I'd have thought they would be keen to be involved






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 Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:28 pm 
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clubfoot fc wrote:Why have the club distanced themselves from this petition?

I'd have thought they would be keen to be involved


The club haven't so much distanced themselves as they are very much behind us....but, whilst they are, and have been for a long time in negotiations with the HCC, they could not be seen to be backing our campaign, they cant ask the council for 1 thing one minute then start saying they wanted something else as well, we have known from day one that we were on our own with this and had no problem with that....we did the petition from a supporters point of view not solely from the club's.

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 Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:38 pm 
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clubfoot fc wrote:Why have the club distanced themselves from this petition?

I'd have thought they would be keen to be involved


My gut feeling is that Rovers are not associating themselves with his campaign because they don't want the council to pay for a stand.

The reason being, if they did, a cut in profits generated from the stand would have to go to the council. The council would own the stand, like they own the KC. The justification for the investment to the government and council tax payers would be that the council partially reap the rewards.

Problem is - this doesn't fit with what Rovers as a club need commercially. A scheme where the Council would take a cut of the income from the stand could completely undermine the fundamental reason for it's construction in the first place. Hudge has publicly asserted that for Hull KR to remain a viable business proposition crowds need to increase to at least 10,000 to generate the sort of income necessary for the board to prevail.

The Campaigners are asserting that the way to do this is to build a sparkly new covered stand.

The question is: Will this definitely produce the desired increase in crowds?

If "yes", and the extra 2000 use the new stand and Rovers keep all the newly generated income than Hudge and the board are happy.

If "yes", and the extra 2000 use the new stand but the council take, say, half of the newly generated income than Hudge and the club are still well short of target, and still in a potentially non-viable position.

If "no", and 2000 of the 8000 regulars merely shift their position from, say, the Well to the shiny new stand cos it's nicer, but Rovers keep all the profit from the new stand then the board is in the same position as they are now - perilous.

But - and this worst case scenario is likely if crowds do not significantly increase as anticipated - 2000 of the 8000 regulars shift their position to the new cool stand and the Council are taking, say, half of the income from those 2000 regulars (from whom Rovers previously solely benefited) then that would be a financial disaster with completely the opposite effect to that hoped for.

(I posted a lot of this theory on another thread. Apologies to thaose who waded through it the first time.)






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 Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:59 pm 
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east hull neither needs nor deserves a new super stadium.






The Independent (May 2007) wrote:Today the east [of Hull], which contains the biggest council estate in Europe, is poor, a place of high unemployment and low expectation. The west, which has the city centre and the university, is posh and prosperous.

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 Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
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Bighead wrote:east hull neither needs nor deserves a new super stadium.

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 Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
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Bighead wrote:east hull neither needs nor deserves a new super stadium.
And you neither need or use your brain.
It still doesn't stop you posting totall bollacks though does it






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 Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
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Roverswall wrote:And you neither need or use your brain.
It still doesn't stop you posting totall bollacks though does it



Well said, what the head is Bighead giving it :CRAZY:

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 Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
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Actually meant what the hell is Bighead on about...

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 Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
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jj151201 wrote:We deleted all the Mickey Mouse's/ Ben Dover etc etc, as for people getting involved...did you offer??
We continually kept asking for help...but no-one came forward....and until you even attempt to do something like this, I don't think you appreciate how hard it is....we are grateful for your signature and your support, but find it very dis-heartening that you criticise our efforts.... :(



Young Bain, New house, Long working hours - Not a chance im affraid. But then again i never saw no plea for help on this either..

And by the way i didnt criticise your efforts, i just gave my opinion that i thought more might of been done- not by you; like i said about others getting on board. Prescott must have some good connections behind the scenes that he could of got you in contact with.






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