United did what needed to be done for the first hour. Not outstanding, but didn't need to be. Liverpool were so poor it's quite sad. Poor defending let United down again. We need Rio back sharpish, and we need him to stay fit. Also in desperate need of a right back.
From a Liverpool perspective, they must be worried. Showed nothing for an hour then gifted two goals (Evans shouldve stayed on his feet but to be fair he was simply outclassed by the Torres turn). After that they had the momentum, but still created nothing.
Berbatov has been pure class this tear. Fair play to him.
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RedTez wrote:United did what needed to be done for the first hour. Not outstanding, but didn't need to be. Liverpool were so poor it's quite sad. Poor defending let United down again. We need Rio back sharpish, and we need him to stay fit. Also in desperate need of a right back.
From a Liverpool perspective, they must be worried. Showed nothing for an hour then gifted two goals (Evans shouldve stayed on his feet but to be fair he was simply outclassed by the Torres turn). After that they had the momentum, but still created nothing.
Berbatov has been pure class this tear. Fair play to him.
Never seen the game (been working, Catalancs), but I can't say I'm surprised.
Our team is lacking so much from the midfield and wide areas. A poor transfer window didn't help, but we'll just have to accept the continual decline of our squad/management until new owners arrive. We simply aren't a competitive club, from on the pitch right through to the board.
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El Pac Carnegie wrote:Strange game. Liverpool offered nothing until the two Utd brain farts. Then it looked it was Liverpools for the taking before Berbatovs winner. Pretty entertaining overall. Fergie must be worried about his defence though.
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Catalancs wrote:Rob, just because you're a Liverpool fan doesn't necessarily mean you have to be on the dole
It's not that, it's just you have an OK Magazine-esque obsession with one's personal life and goings on. If somebody isn't at a game, isn't going to a game or didn't go to the game, they must answer to you, the die-hard United fan.
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Robbie Rotten wrote:It's not that, it's just you have an OK Magazine-esque obsession with one's personal life and goings on. If somebody isn't at a game, isn't going to a game or didn't go to the game, they must answer to you, the die-hard United fan.
Think you've got me mixed up with someone else. United are my favourite football team, have been since I was a little'un, but not sure I'd class myself as a fan. Have had the football on mute all afternoon while listening to York v Blackpool in the rugby league. You have to remember it's only an internet forum. Whether you went to the game, watched it on tv or one of your mates told you what happened doesn't affect anyone on here and probably doesn't interest anyone either.
United looked shaky at the back and made some poor choices especially in the second half. Liverpool fans should be very worried and I don't think Roy Hodgson is the man to lead you out of the mire. Half way through September and I can't see past Chelsea for the title.
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Catalancs wrote::oops: Think you've got me mixed up with someone else. United are my favourite football team, have been since I was a little'un, but not sure I'd class myself as a fan. Have had the football on mute all afternoon while listening to York v Blackpool in the rugby league. You have to remember it's only an internet forum. Whether you went to the game, watched it on tv or one of your mates told you what happened doesn't affect anyone on here and probably doesn't interest anyone either.
United looked shaky at the back and made some poor choices especially in the second half. Liverpool fans should be very worried and I don't think Roy Hodgson is the man to lead you out of the mire. Half way through September and I can't see past Chelsea for the title.
You know exactly what I meant when I said it. Generally, if I wasn't at the game or whatever, it'd usually be followed up with a snide remark from yourself. It's not about affecting an internet forum, it's about avoiding your goading. You know exactly what I mean
As for Roy, I've said it all before, I want him to do well, but the club is now being ran poorly on all levels, which will continue to be exposed the longer things go on like they are.
Robbie Rotten wrote:You are traditional slow starters, I'm not sure if it's a training thing with Moyes, but it's a reason you're forever playing catch up in the places for Europe. Judging from your performances, it wouldn't surprise me if Moyes takes a 'continental' approach to training; starting with heavier training, then generally lightening things up in the second half of the year, which usually results in a sustained rise in form as your team physically peak. Benitez done it with us in many ways, generally 'cause we had a lot of internationals that had played in the summer, but it's a tactic Manuel Pellegrini has used to great effect in his career, although I do feel it's something that works better in the leagues that start in September, as it generally allows the heavier training to settle that little longer, whereas in England, it often results in teams looking flat, slow and lethargic, which is usually the opposite of what you'd expect from them.
Unfortunately it's the third successive year we've been in the bottom three in September. Confidence was high pre season and a lot of people thinking we could finally hit the ground the running but as of yet we've been anything but, really poor. Defensively we've been ok, a lot of peoplr criticising Distin yet Man Utd game aside we've only conceded one goal per game, I think people should be looking to our attacking/flair players for criticism, Arteta has done fook all so far this season and Pienaar was poor yesterday. We're limited in attack but I'll come onto that below. We didn't strengthen well in the transfer window, we were and still are desperate for someone who can play wide right, Moyes didn't buy and we have been left with Osman playing there the last two games and tbh he's woeful, really woeful. Squad player maybe but not a starter. We may come good as you say but it won't be for a long while on current viewing. Good point you make about the training and fitness, wouldn't surprise me if true.
Robbie Rotten wrote:I think you're a good side and should eventually get to the right level. Just a side note, my mate - a blue nose - said The Yak was immense when he came on against United, really making a push for a place, he said he had to play against Newcastle, but, from what I heard on't radio, it was Beckford who came in for Cahill. Why is this?
Mate I've been asking the same question since half 2 yesterday when I saw the team, I can't understand it. He changed the game completely against United, without him we wouldn't have got back into it (If you look a few pages back I said the same thing), he almost done it yesterday when he hit the post at the end. I fear Moyes has a problem with him and it's costing the team badly. Beckford looks ok, works hard runs all day but hasn't had an ounce of service but he's no lone frontman he couldn't do it at Leeds I've no idea why Moyes thinks he can do it here, his obsession of the one up front is getting embarrassing now. I worry he's trying proving a point to Yakubu by playing Beckford and leaving him on the bench (Moyes did say yesterday Yak had his head turned by West Ham over the summer). If he isn't fit enough to play 90 mins yet due to his injury pre season then why not start him and bring him off, give the Yak 60/70 mins and Beckford the rest. It makes no sense to me the other way round.
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Think you've got me mixed up with someone else. United are my favourite football team, have been since I was a little'un, but not sure I'd class myself as a fan. Have had the football on mute all afternoon while listening to York v Blackpool in the rugby league.
