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 Post subject: Re: LEE RADFORD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:49 am 
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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Mate your good authority was wrong.
Rovers very much wanted to sign Radford and it was only an 11th hour U Turn due to Hull matching Rovers offer that stopped him being a Robin.
To me that indicates that Hull have missed out on a target that they had in mind for 2011 and retained him instead at terms more suited to the player then club.
Rovers would be nuts not to take a chance on Craig Hall with his try ratio so i think your wrong there too.
Morgan wanted Radford but the fans didnt so i guess how he performs for Hull will show whos judgement was the best.



If this is true Rule won't be a happy bunny since he stated last week no one would breach Hull's new wage structure, except the top earners from overseas and Tickle of course.

Wouldn't have thought this precedence was very good for future wage negotiations for the club, although iv'e no doubt their players will regard this as a victory in boosting their earning power.






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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:05 am 
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TBF Bertie, with their prop targets disappearing over the horizon, (LMS to Saints, Hargreaves to Bulls, Fielden staying put) they had no choice but to up their offer to keep him.

Rovers need to get Wheeldon tied down quickly, 'cos decent props are as rare as hens teeth.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:26 am 
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Rule actually said that they are happy with the wage structure although "there are exceptions where market forces dictate you may pay above that level"

as Gorka has already said. if the other targets have signed elsewhere then we would be daft not to increase our offer to radford.






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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:44 am 
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The Goroka Gene-ius wrote:

Rovers need to get Wheeldon tied down quickly, 'cos decent props are as rare as hens teeth.


TBH I reckon Hull are more likely to up their offer for Dowes before offering Wheeldon a contract but you never know!






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 Post subject: Re: LEE RADFORD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:56 am 
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Bertie wrote:Wouldn't have thought this precedence was very good for future wage negotiations for the club, although iv'e no doubt their players will regard this as a victory in boosting their earning power.


Thats not true at all just ask Craig Hall or Mark Calderwood!

Had Hull's prop targets accepted their offers then there is a fair chance both Radders and Dowes would have had their contract offers removed.

Its a gamble holding on but neither the club nor the players in these positions are in full control because of all the external factors.






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knocker norton wrote:Thats not true at all just ask Craig Hall or Mark Calderwood!

Had Hull's prop targets accepted their offers then there is a fair chance both Radders and Dowes would have had their contract offers removed.

Its a gamble holding on but neither the club nor the players in these positions are in full control because of all the external factors.



AFAIK, neither Hall or Calderwood were offered a contract, the players who were offered reduced terms were Radford and Dowes and it would appear in the former case he already managed to at least retain his former earnings due, as you say, to hull having missed out on projected targets. Dowes position presumably remains in limbo. ?






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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:16 am 
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Bertie wrote:AFAIK, neither Hall or Calderwood were offered a contract, the players who were offered reduced terms were Radford and Dowes and it would appear in the former case he already managed to at least retain his former earnings due, as you say, to hull having missed out on projected targets. Dowes position presumably remains in limbo. ?


Will Sharp put pen to paper pretty much ruling out any sort of contract offer for Hall. Calderwood may still be offered something in November if he gets himself fully fit - this may change 1) If another club make him a firm offer or 2) Hull sign another outside back.

Dowes is completely in limbo at the moment and is holding out for more money knowing that if another prop agrees a contract with Hull then his current offer will more then likely disappear.

Going back to your original claim that the Hull players will see the Radders signing as a victory in boosting their earning power I think the above would suggest not.






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knocker norton wrote:TBH I reckon Hull are more likely to up their offer for Dowes before offering Wheeldon a contract but you never know!


I don't doubt that for a minute. It wasn't Hull who I had in mind, but I know Wakey are supposed to be interested in Wheeldon. He's not pulling tress up, but everyone has a value, and if the price is right, Rovers should give him another 2 years to continue his development.

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The Goroka Gene-ius wrote:I don't doubt that for a minute. It wasn't Hull who I had in mind, but I know Wakey are supposed to be interested in Wheeldon. He's not pulling tress up, but everyone has a value, and if the price is right, Rovers should give him another 2 years to continue his development.


His value to Rovers may suddenly increase if other forward targets do not come off!

I would like to think Wheeldon has a future in this city because he is a good prop with the best years ahead of him but things can all change pretty quickly.






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Bertie wrote:the players who were offered reduced terms were Radford and Dowes and it would appear in the former case he already managed to at least retain his former earnings


Can you provide a link to your assertion that Lee Radford's level of salary on his new contract is the same as his old one? Given that he's getting a testimonial as well, that would be a huge pay increase in real terms. Thanks.

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