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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:39 pm 
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dally messenger wrote:6 page thread on a single fight?
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this thread is a beat up


Did you see it?

If not, how can you comment?






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Spot of mither up in the top tier right at the end as well, looked like a group of Wire lads having a disagreement.






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Some footage on youtube, doesn't look as bad as it seemed from where I was sat






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 Post subject: Re: Wembley crowd trouble?
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wigan_rlfc wrote:Some footage on youtube, doesn't look as bad as it seemed from where I was sat


Only video I can find is after it has gone on and been split up. Wigan shirt still plainly visible on the one I saw though.






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Shmoo wrote:Why would you want to be p!ssed when you're watching one of the greatest moments in your clubs history? Fair enough have a pint or two before the match. But being p!ssed: you won't remember half of what happened, there's a decent chance you'll be annoying the people around you and you'll be constantly getting up to go to the toilet.

I always figured that the people who go to matches bladdered don't really enjoy the sport, use it as an excuse to drink and/or need to be p!ssed to get through the match.

It's much better to watch when you're not drunk and you can have a few after the match to celebrate/drown your sorrows.

What a load of swollocks. I remember every part of a superb day and would have done even without a drink. I went to the loo once at half time and jumped around like a loony like everybody else when Wire scored. because when I have a drink I get soft and loved up. So take your theories elsewhere






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dally messenger wrote:6 page thread on a single fight?


this thread is a beat up


crucrucrusaders wrote:It wasn't just a scuffle though, quite a few were involved for quite some time.

I dare say if the stewards had not got involved it could have escalated into something a far lot worse. No side were backing down, let's put it that way.


Both these quotes seem to show a complete ignorance of the situation.

For over 70 minutes adults and children alike in the Warrington end were subjected to verbal abuse, being showered with beer and generally being intimidated.

The stewards could have dealt with this situation prior to kick off by ejecting the 3 ringleaders. The situation finally escalated when full cups of beer were thrown at the WArrington fans, one hitting a small child in the face.

I still do not condone Warrington fans reacting but maybe after having their day ruined ( and in 1 case a father whos daughter had been hit in the face with an object) it was inevitable there would be a reaction at some stage. This reaction was exactly what the Leeds " supporters " had been trying to illicit all afternoon.

And the comment "No side were backing down, let's put it that way", is a touch misleading isnt it.
You had 1 side trying to stir up violence and the other who were actually there to watch a game.

Hope this helps.

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I've witnessed this problem at all but one of the big Finals I've been to with Saints. Sometimes it's Saints fans, and sometimes it's other fans, but they're always men aged 18-40, in groups with their friends, and who are drunk. The closest I ever came to it was Saints V Bradford CC Final at Twickenham, when a group of Saints "fans" in front of me decided to throw non-stop racist abuse at the black players on the pitch. I'd taken some mates for their first taste of a big game, and they were appalled, so I asked the blokes to shut up. They gave me a fair bit of "it's a free society, so I'm free to be a shitmuncher etc etc" (I'm paraphrasing), but they did stop the abuse after I got a steward. The rest of the match was one of the most tense and unpleasant hours I've ever spent, as you could feel the aggression radiating off these blokes. A really horrible experience.

I've not experienced real aggression at a normal RL match for decades, but the big finals attract arseholes who - as others have said - see it as an excuse for a massive group piss-up. Since I got kids, I'll only go to finals if I can get some of the most expensive tickets, because I normally assume that the sort of tossers who want to go to a big match to get vexed and upset other people, are unlikely to shell out over the odds for tickets. But it's completely unfair on the poor buggers who can't afford that and have to sit near these knobs.

As someone said earlier, we know what seats they were in, and the RFL will know who bought those seats. So let's see some action.






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I've been to the final for the past 3 years but didnt go this weekend after all the trouble with the wire fans last year. Unfortunately last year we was seated with them and as we're from yorkshire we cheered for Hudds. There was no abuse from our side just a bit of banter but all the wire fans wanted to do was fight and throw beer. Its now put me off going to a challenge cup final again.

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There's no place for crowd trouble at any sporting event. Those who are responsible should be banned for life.






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