Post subject: Re: nrl ceos say expansion may have to wait till 2017
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:29 am
JB Down Under
Club Owner
Joined: Apr 29 2004 Posts: 14082 Location: The Sunniest City in the World
Not surprising, Searle should be concentrating on how to earn money and stop the crowds abandoning the Titans than bleating about wanting more handouts.
Expansion Bids response:
Quote:EXPANSION frontrunners yesterday warned any delay past 2013 could have a damaging effect on the game's growth in those areas. Central Coast and Perth responded to an article in The Australian yesterday in which Gold Coast chief Michael Searle warned the game might not be ready to expand until at least 2017.
Searle, a proclaimed expansionist, said any decision should be the domain of the game's soon to be formed independent commission and would also be tied to the revenue generated from the next television rights deal after it expires at the end of 2012.
Central Coast general manager Greg Florimo said the Bears' bid was geared towards 2013 and any delay would force the franchise to reconsider its position.
"We've all been focused on 2013 for a number of reasons," Florimo said.
"There will be an injection of finances into the game with the new broadcasting agreement and hopefully that agreement will bring extra value to the game.
Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar. Related CoverageSearle warns of rushing new clubs into NRL The Australian, 1 day ago Bears planning to have $6m honey pot The Australian, 29 Jul 2010 Orford joins Central Coast push Courier Mail, 28 Jul 2010 Expansion is too much to bear The Australian, 28 Jul 2010 NRL to go fishing on the Central Coast The Australian, 26 Jul 2010 .End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar. "(NRL chief executive) David Gallop has said himself if we were to expand we'd consider it for 2013, so we're counting on that as a target and a date for us."
West Australian chief executive John Sackson said any delay to push the date back would hurt the game's growth in that state.
He added the inclusion of new franchises could prove beneficial in negotiations for the next TV rights deal as it would open up new markets.
"I understand what Michael is saying and Michael has obviously been through it, but I'm sure he can relate to the amount of energy, money, passion that we're injecting into constructing a compelling bid," Sackson said.
"His comments don't change our resolve, or our focus, or our determination to get into the NRL because the West Australian market is ripe for
rugby league, it's ripe for an NRL franchise."
Having pushed for the Titans' inclusion in 2007, Searle said the game needed to sort out other issues first, including guaranteeing the financial security of existing clubs.
It is understood most chief executives share Searle's concerns but have yet to go public.
Central Coast and Perth are believed to have the edge over Ipswich and Central Queensland when the NRL expands.
Both are hoping to have an answer midway through next season.
Florimo added any delay in expansion would be hard for fans given they have been waiting for their own team since the failed Northern Eagles folded in 2002.
The Bears gave their best advertisement for inclusion when a sell-out crowd packed Bluetongue Stadium for the match between Manly and Wests Tigers.
"We've certainly built our fans up to expect 2013 is the date, so if that wasn't the case, some would certainly have something to say," Florimo said.
Not surprising, Searle should be concentrating on how to earn money and stop the crowds abandoning the Titans than bleating about wanting more handouts.
Expansion Bids response:
Quote:EXPANSION frontrunners yesterday warned any delay past 2013 could have a damaging effect on the game's growth in those areas. Central Coast and Perth responded to an article in The Australian yesterday in which Gold Coast chief Michael Searle warned the game might not be ready to expand until at least 2017.
Searle, a proclaimed expansionist, said any decision should be the domain of the game's soon to be formed independent commission and would also be tied to the revenue generated from the next television rights deal after it expires at the end of 2012.
Central Coast general manager Greg Florimo said the Bears' bid was geared towards 2013 and any delay would force the franchise to reconsider its position.
"We've all been focused on 2013 for a number of reasons," Florimo said.
"There will be an injection of finances into the game with the new broadcasting agreement and hopefully that agreement will bring extra value to the game.
Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar. Related CoverageSearle warns of rushing new clubs into NRL The Australian, 1 day ago Bears planning to have $6m honey pot The Australian, 29 Jul 2010 Orford joins Central Coast push Courier Mail, 28 Jul 2010 Expansion is too much to bear The Australian, 28 Jul 2010 NRL to go fishing on the Central Coast The Australian, 26 Jul 2010 .End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar. "(NRL chief executive) David Gallop has said himself if we were to expand we'd consider it for 2013, so we're counting on that as a target and a date for us."
West Australian chief executive John Sackson said any delay to push the date back would hurt the game's growth in that state.
He added the inclusion of new franchises could prove beneficial in negotiations for the next TV rights deal as it would open up new markets.
"I understand what Michael is saying and Michael has obviously been through it, but I'm sure he can relate to the amount of energy, money, passion that we're injecting into constructing a compelling bid," Sackson said.
"His comments don't change our resolve, or our focus, or our determination to get into the NRL because the West Australian market is ripe for
rugby league, it's ripe for an NRL franchise."
Having pushed for the Titans' inclusion in 2007, Searle said the game needed to sort out other issues first, including guaranteeing the financial security of existing clubs.
It is understood most chief executives share Searle's concerns but have yet to go public.
Central Coast and Perth are believed to have the edge over Ipswich and Central Queensland when the NRL expands.
Both are hoping to have an answer midway through next season.
Florimo added any delay in expansion would be hard for fans given they have been waiting for their own team since the failed Northern Eagles folded in 2002.
The Bears gave their best advertisement for inclusion when a sell-out crowd packed Bluetongue Stadium for the match between Manly and Wests Tigers.
"We've certainly built our fans up to expect 2013 is the date, so if that wasn't the case, some would certainly have something to say," Florimo said.
Post subject: Re: nrl ceos say expansion may have to wait till 2017
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:46 am
LUFCLR
International Star
Joined: Aug 25 2010 Posts: 21
JB Down Under wrote:Not surprising, Searle should be concentrating on how to earn money and stop the crowds abandoning the Titans than bleating about wanting more handouts.
You have to consider that for Searle, as a CEO of a club, is looking after the interests of the Titans. Expansion is good for the game, not always for the existing clubs, for a variety of reasons.
JB Down Under wrote:Not surprising, Searle should be concentrating on how to earn money and stop the crowds abandoning the Titans than bleating about wanting more handouts.
You have to consider that for Searle, as a CEO of a club, is looking after the interests of the Titans. Expansion is good for the game, not always for the existing clubs, for a variety of reasons.
Post subject: Re: nrl ceos say expansion may have to wait till 2017
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:54 pm
Sal Paradise
International Chairman
Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18060 Location: On the road
All Searle is saying is
"I can generate enough revenue to run my club so I need more central funding - expansion means I will not get that and I might have to work a bit harder at improving my own revenue streams"
Pity he didn't think like that when the Titan got in!!
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Post subject: Re: nrl ceos say expansion may have to wait till 2017
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:44 am
JB Down Under
Club Owner
Joined: Apr 29 2004 Posts: 14082 Location: The Sunniest City in the World
swamp? You've become a Cronulla fan now? How many team changes is that???? Mind you with Dragons choke just around the corner I can understand why.
Searle is sweating as his stadium deal/financial modelling is going up the shoot as RL fans on the GC spit their dummy at the ridiculous ticket prices. $150+ to take a family to the footy? Having a laugh!
ps if Dallys TV predictions come true the game will be able to increase grants to $6mill AND afford expansion of two more teams.
WEST COAST PIRATES NRL expansion? Sometime soon, maybe......
Post subject: Re: nrl ceos say expansion may have to wait till 2017
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:02 am
dally messenger
Player Coach
Joined: Apr 26 2007 Posts: 12958
JB Down Under wrote:swamp? You've become a Cronulla fan now? How many team changes is that???? Mind you with Dragons choke just around the corner I can understand why.
Searle is sweating as his stadium deal/financial modelling is going up the shoot as RL fans on the GC spit their dummy at the ridiculous ticket prices. $150+ to take a family to the footy? Having a laugh!
ps if Dallys TV predictions come true the game will be able to increase grants to $6mill AND afford expansion of two more teams.
yeah but its fun watching you sweat to see if you get a team
from bagging the nrl every chance you got now all you talk about is the perth bid
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