Post subject: Re: When do Nigel Wood and Richard Lewis retire?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:28 pm
SmokeyTA
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Starbug wrote:Go on , give us a clue ?
its a list of clubs in the last 11 years who have gone into adminstration, almost all were relegated in the preceeding 3 years to going into administraion.
40 clubs at a qucik count, not a bad total considering there are only 112 in the premiership and football league
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Post subject: Re: When do Nigel Wood and Richard Lewis retire?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:31 pm
Catalancs
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SmokeyTA wrote:its a list of clubs in the last 11 years who have gone into adminstration, almost all were relegated in the preceeding 3 years to going into administraion.
40 clubs at a qucik count, not a bad total considering there are only 112 in the premiership and football league
Aren't there 92?
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Post subject: Re: When do Nigel Wood and Richard Lewis retire?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:08 pm
littlerich
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SmokeyTA wrote:its a list of clubs in the last 11 years who have gone into adminstration, almost all were relegated in the preceeding 3 years to going into administraion.
40 clubs at a qucik count, not a bad total considering there are only 112 in the premiership and football league
They're rushing in a License system and scrapping P&R as a result.
Post subject: Re: When do Nigel Wood and Richard Lewis retire?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:32 pm
Starbug
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SmokeyTA wrote:its a list of clubs in the last 11 years who have gone into adminstration, almost all were relegated in the preceeding 3 years to going into administraion.
40 clubs at a qucik count, not a bad total considering there are only 112 in the premiership and football league
that's why we have a salary cap
All were relegated then went into administration , so basically they overspent by giving out long term contracts that could not be honoured , something that isn,t a problem in RL
So your point is what exactly ?
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Post subject: Re: When do Nigel Wood and Richard Lewis retire?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:46 pm
SmokeyTA
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Starbug wrote:that's why we have a salary cap
But you told me we had a salary cap to spread the talent not keep costs down?
Also, surely if the aim of the cap is to protect clubs from overspending it should have some link to the amount clubs can actually afford to spend and not simply be an arbitrary amount?
Quote:All were relegated then went into administration , so basically they overspent by giving out long term contracts that could not be honoured , something that isn,t a problem in RL
So your point is what exactly ?
well im pretty sure any club, anywhere, which goes into administration 'basically overspent'
my point is promotion and relegation has massively damaged clubs in football just as it has in RL,
Since Leeds utd were relegate they have sold their stadium, sold their training ground, and dismantled one of the most successful youth academies in the country, was Leeds Utds relegation good for football? no, clearly not. It severely damaged one of its top clubs, it meant the club lost its stadium and training ground and it lost a very successful youth academy.
But hey, im sure the clubs which were promoted benefited right? im sure Norwich, Crystal Palace and West Brom went on to be a great success yeah? oh..............
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Post subject: Re: When do Nigel Wood and Richard Lewis retire?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:54 pm
littlerich
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SmokeyTA wrote:Since Leeds utd were relegate they have sold their stadium, sold their training ground, and dismantled one of the most successful youth academies in the country, was Leeds Utds relegation good for football? no, clearly not. It severely damaged one of its top clubs, it meant the club lost its stadium and training ground and it lost a very successful youth academy.
So why hasn't the soccer world seen fit to protect such clubs from dumb-assed Chairmen? West Brom seem to be content with yo-yo ing without cocking their finances up. Have Burnley financially imploded? Some club owners are more sensible than others - that's business as they say. And it is business these days, not a sport so lay off the intervention - let the free market rule
Post subject: Re: When do Nigel Wood and Richard Lewis retire?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:58 pm
SmokeyTA
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littlerich wrote:So why hasn't the soccer world seen fit to protect such clubs from dumb-assed Chairmen? West Brom seem to be content with yo-yo ing without cocking their finances up. Have Burnley financially imploded? Some club owners are more sensible than others - that's business as they say. And it is business these days, not a sport so lay off the intervention - let the free market rule
no they havent, but 40 out of 92 clubs did. Thats nearly 44% of clubs in the past 11 years have gone into administration, some a few times.
And if we want to run the business as a free market, there is one far more obvious intervention that we would need to get rid of
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Post subject: Re: When do Nigel Wood and Richard Lewis retire?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:30 pm
Starbug
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Quote:
SmokeyTA wrote: my point is promotion and relegation has massively damaged clubs in football just as it has in RL,
Since Leeds utd were relegate they have sold their stadium, sold their training ground, and dismantled one of the most successful youth academies in the country, was Leeds Utds relegation good for football? no, clearly not. It severely damaged one of its top clubs, it meant the club lost its stadium and training ground and it lost a very successful youth academy.
But hey, im sure the clubs which were promoted benefited right? im sure Norwich, Crystal Palace and West Brom went on to be a great success yeah? oh..............[/quote
Relegation didn't,t damage Leeds Utd , a stupid muppet in charge damaged Leeds Utd , spending thousands on tropical fish tanks and gambling on the bounce of the ball to get Champions league money certainly did
as I put , the same problem doesn't,t exist in RL because the contracts are different , if they had those contracts in football Leeds wouldn't,t be in the mess they are in
P and R is not perfect , just like the world we live in is not perfect , Licencing is not perfect , there is no perfect answer
I have accepted that licensing is here to stay for the foreseeable future , I don't like it or agree with it , what I won't accept though is lies and deceit from our governing body in their dealings with some clubs and their owners and fans
If they cannot do things honourably they should go , if they haven't the strength to tell the truth they are not fit to hold their positions
if you cannot see that then you are no better than they are , and if that is the case I pity you
kcab sfrawdder
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Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
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