Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:00 pm
McClennan
International Chairman
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 27757 Location: In rocket surgery
I don't know why so many people are going for Richards. All he's done is catch bombs and kick goals. His general play outside of that has been pretty unspectacular. There are far more deserving candidates from around the league and I'd even go for either of the Tomkins or O'Loughlin from Wigoon ahead of Richards.
Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:14 pm
headhunter
Club Owner
Joined: Aug 17 2003 Posts: 17226 Location: South Wales
ToffeeLady wrote:Not really embarrassing? It's his 5th season anyway, and althoguh he is too old and can't be taken into consideration he's still only 23
So is Greg Inglis, in fact Tomkins made his SL debut a month before Inglis made his NRL debut. It's almost as stupid as the people mentioning Ben Harrison, who is a week younger than Jarryd Hayne.
King Street Cat wrote:Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.
Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:46 pm
ToffeeLady
International Star
Joined: May 29 2010 Posts: 256 Location: Liverpool
McClennan wrote:I don't know why so many people are going for Richards. All he's done is catch bombs and kick goals. His general play outside of that has been pretty unspectacular. There are far more deserving candidates from around the league and I'd even go for either of the Tomkins or O'Loughlin from Wigoon ahead of Richards.
Said this to somebody else but, you musn't watch him much then if you think he just catches and kicks. He takes the ball up more than anybody else in our team, makes loads of metres andhelps the forwards out a lot. Unlike a lot of other wingers Pat genrally doesn't just score walk in trys either, some of the tries he's scored have been amazing. give the ball to pat 20 metres or less out, more often than not thats 4 points for Wigan.
Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:58 pm
Warrior-Till-I-Die
Player Coach
Joined: Oct 03 2009 Posts: 230
MOS- Pat Richards, 3rd most meter maker in Super League, top try scorer, top goal kicker, top points scorer, safe as houses under a bomb and solid in defence, need I go on?
YPOTY- Liam Watts, Slotted into the KR with relative ease and would be an outsider to make the 4 nations squad.
COTY- Mick Potter - Not everyone's first choice, but he has had to deal with injuries to key players for big parts of the year, i.e Pryce and Eastmond, add Cunningham at the moment. Has had it tough and is on course for a 2nd place finish, and not far off a Wembley appearance too. He doesn't get enough credit in my opinion.
Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:56 am
FearTheVee
International Board Member
Joined: Sep 26 2002 Posts: 11377 Location: Much too far South
Warrior-Till-I-Die wrote:COTY- Mick Potter - Not everyone's first choice, but he has had to deal with injuries to key players for big parts of the year, i.e Pryce and Eastmond, add Cunningham at the moment. Has had it tough and is on course for a 2nd place finish, and not far off a Wembley appearance too. He doesn't get enough credit in my opinion.
Not COTY, but certainly a galaxy better than some of the knee-jerkers at Knowsley Road would have you believe.
Simmons has a tough job next year and Bradford have got themselves an excellent coach.
Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:37 am
Noel Cleal
Club Owner
Joined: Apr 19 2004 Posts: 1466 Location: Kent
ToffeeLady wrote:Said this to somebody else but, you musn't watch him much then if you think he just catches and kicks. He takes the ball up more than anybody else in our team, makes loads of metres andhelps the forwards out a lot. Unlike a lot of other wingers Pat genrally doesn't just score walk in trys either, some of the tries he's scored have been amazing. give the ball to pat 20 metres or less out, more often than not thats 4 points for Wigan.
20 Metres out with no one in front of him. He must be a fantastic in the untelivised games because he just looks solid in every game I have seen him.
I am not saying he is a bad player but I would hope you would need to be better to win MOS. Lesley V had several seasons at Bradford better than Richards in 2010 and he was never in the running. The reason for that was that it was a given that Lesley was made to look good by his team mates and I think you could say the same for Richards.
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