Salary cap infringements, ground?

Something which has always happened and will always happen at amateur level in not only this sport, but all sports at amateur level. These are the challenges that amateur sports clubs have and will always have. We can provide funding as much as we like, and create opportunities, but we can't force people to play all the time. Don't pretend it's something that Lewis has done, and don't pretend it is a RL only problem.


Of course they will. They help fund grass roots. The funding will go to professional clubs in some capacity so they can fund community coaches and development officers to work at grass roots level in their areas. These participants will then hopefully in turn become either RL players at a higher level (thus benefiting the performance of pro clubs) or RL fans (benefiting the income streams). But it will also hugely benefit the running of the game at grass roots.

I don't see what you are complaining about (again!).


And so does every sport at grass roots level. No sport will ever be perfect. As long as they're working towards improving the situation (which we clearly are) then it's a good thing. If you don't think RL is doing what it can with limited resources to improve at grass roots then you aren't paying much attention.

You lead the way then...

Which is a fair point. It's not exactly a good argument to say attendances on this day are bigger than on that day if the games are completely different.


You will find that hard to prove. I think they are very similar compared to other seasons similar fixtures played on different days. But you made the point, so you can prove me wrong if you like.


Which if you didn't have, you'd be complaining that you didn't have it (like you did before you had it). Why they feel the need to sweeten those that will complain either way I haven't the foggiest!


So why aren't you starting a thread to get P&R between Championship 1 and the Conference as well? It shouldn't matter if clubs in the Conference don't want to come up or not. The fact is, it is only right that they do even if they're not ready.


Again, this history and dignity thing isn't an argument. It's a filler that people use who lack an argument. The history of the game has seen promotion via criteria throughout. It's nothing new. The game has always had teams being knocked back or kicked out and teams being denied, not only at the top level but at the 2nd and 3rd tiers as well. I don't see you campaigning for them.


No surprise that PROFESSIONAL sport is about making money! If it wasn't about making money, then how would they work as a business? How would the sport work without money? You tell us, because you're the one complaining about it.

What on earth did that have to do with my post, that you quoted?

These were not mentioned in leaguefan's whinge about fairness being applied. I would assume that Saints didn't get a point for salary cap infringements and having a premier ground. But they have the capacity. They have the crowds. They have contributed to the competition probably more than any other club in the SL. They produce the players (many making up the England team). I don't see how it is unfair that a club that rightfully earned a B License is in Super League?

Can someone explain for me?

I have no idea what you're on about...

I'll go and read it again and let you know

I simply thought you were implying that the best club eg the one deserving of promotion wasn't necessarily the best on the field, which is what the majority of sports in this country use for promotion to a higher level. Therefore I was suggesting that you apply that to the SL play offs, ie its not the best on field performing team in the league that is crowned the best team in the country...sorry Europe.

If you haven't worked it out I am strongly against the licensing system as the ridiculousness of the idea i posted shows. Rugby League is moving away from being a sport and business to just a business, the sport and competition is secondary. Even in SL fans are getting fed up with only the successful clubs of Wigan and Wire along with the Crusaders posting significant crowd increases. Two thirds of the clubs in SL are losing fans.

Stop right there.
They don't. RL doesn't. Soccer only does so between four of it's hundreds of leagues (and there has minimum standards too) RU doesn't.
Which other sports do you have an in depth knowledge of.

Could anyone name the last winner of the Minor Counties Championship to be promoted to the County Championship in cricket? Or the last team to finish bottom of the County Championship to be relegated to the Minor Counties Championship.