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 Post subject: Re: England team for 4 nations
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:34 am 
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CGD wrote:True or not, I guarentee he'll be picked if he makes himself available.


One of the most obvious statements I've ever read on here! :lol:






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 Post subject: Re: England team for 4 nations
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:54 am 
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Widdop
Briscoe
Shenton
Pryce
Hall
S Tomkins
Eastmond
Graham
Sinfield
Morley
Ellis
Burgess
O'Loughlin

subs
Lynch
Westwood
J Tomkins
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 Post subject: Re: England team for 4 nations
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:20 am 
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Widdop
Briscoe
Atkins
Bridge
Hall

S.Tomkins
Eastmond

Graham
Lunt
Morley
Ellis
Burgess
O'Loughlin

Harrison
Roby
Westwood
J.Tomkins

Harrison to come on at prop with Burgess moving up to prop when Westwood/Tomkins comes on.

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 Post subject: Re: England team for 4 nations
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:22 am 
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1. Widdop
2. T. Briscoe
3. Shenton (Bridge if fit and playing)
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Tomkins
7. Eastmond
8. Morley
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Ellis
12. Burgess/Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. Lunt
15. Harrison
16. Westwood/Burgess
17. J. Tomkins

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 Post subject: Re: England team for 4 nations
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:02 pm 
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Sheldon wrote:You've got to have at least one prop on the bench.


You're right Sheldon. Maybe put Lynch in for Harrison.






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 Post subject: Re: England team for 4 nations
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:57 pm 
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Widdop / S Briscoe
T Briscoe
L Smith
Bridge if fit, if not Shenton / Widdop
Hall / Goulding. Don't think Hall has been particularly impressive.
S Tomkins
McGuire
Morley
Roby
Graham
Ellis
Burgess
Sinfield

Pryce
Harrison
Scruton / Westwood / J Tomkins
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 Post subject: Re: England team for 4 nations
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:36 pm 
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Dico wrote:How the majority put Atkins in before Bridge beggars belief.
Bridge never finds touch, Atkins never finds his winger.
I said it at the start of the year and I still believe it to be true; Atkins will never make a top class centre and unless the guy learns positional sense and how to put his winger through and not the touchie, he's just a great athlete with no natural centre skills. I can understand the debate between Gleeson and Bridge, personally I'd take the latter being much younger but Atkins?? I dont know what game some watch.


:CRAZY:

have you actually seen atkins play for warrington this year?

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 Post subject: Re: England team for 4 nations
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:48 pm 
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Tomkins-He has been far better since his switch to fullback and is a better option than the pedestrian Briscoe and the reasonably untested Widdop

Briscoe
Gleeson-Had a good season for Wigan and based on stats and what i have seen Gleeson seems superior to the likes of Shenton and Yeaman. Atkins may be worth a try though
Bridge-Provided he is fit should be first choice centre.
Hall

Pryce-If fit he is far too good a player to leave out and may help having a club halfback pairing
Eastmond

Graham
Sinfield
Morley
Ellis
Burgess
O'Loughlin

This pack seems to be the general consensus. They should offer plenty of go forward, offloads and skill. Sinfield must stay out of the halves but should be pretty useful at hooker allowing him plenty of influence.

Roby
Fielden
Langley/Lynch/Wood/Crabtree
Tomkins/Westwood






Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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 Post subject: Re: England team for 4 nations
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:55 pm 
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Catpiss #2 wrote::CRAZY:

have you actually seen atkins play for warrington this year?


Ive seen almost every warrington game this year.
Atkins is not, and never has been, a natural centre. Great physical athlete, but there's certain natural elements all great centres have and Atkins has zero of them, Bridge has most of them. Decent clubman, probably had 7 or 8 good games this year but at international level.. not going to make a top class centre. He'd make a great winger internationally imo but I havent seen him play this position so you dont know.
Atkins finds the touchline more often than he finds his winger, keep an eye out for it over the coming weeks.

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 Post subject: Re: England team for 4 nations
PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:18 pm 
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Dico wrote:Ive seen almost every warrington game this year.
Atkins is not, and never has been, a natural centre. Great physical athlete, but there's certain natural elements all great centres have and Atkins has zero of them, Bridge has most of them. Decent clubman, probably had 7 or 8 good games this year but at international level.. not going to make a top class centre. He'd make a great winger internationally imo but I havent seen him play this position so you dont know.
Atkins finds the touchline more often than he finds his winger, keep an eye out for it over the coming weeks.



if you've been watching warrington this season you would have seen him playing winger, since him and king were interchanging for most of the first 8 or so games.

If you're looking for as close as a straight replacement for senior, atkins is as close as you're gonna get, and he's very good in his ownright, you seem to be describing the one ryan atkins from wakefield rather than the one thats struck up two great partnerships with matt king and chris riley as his centre.

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