Post subject: Re: Hull KR fans demand council investment in Craven Park
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:10 pm
Sandro II Terrorista
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Barnacle Bill wrote:No problem. I take it your full support is behind council funding for the stand.
Only if they build Sheldon's Special Slide in time for the weekend. In truth, I'm not sure, at first glance I did think that it's not something local authorities should be getting involved in, however I do think there's been some compelling arguments put forward over the last couple of pages in favour.
One thing I do know is that both the NHS and the council find it almost impossible to contact and educate the male over thirty fives population of the city when it comes to alcohol and tobacco, this could be a possible in for them.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Post subject: Re: Hull KR fans demand council investment in Craven Park
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:07 pm
Robbo4
Club Coach
Joined: Jan 23 2006 Posts: 15980 Location: Boulevard with my balls of steel!
rover49 wrote:Where have I said that, the fact is that you are in a stadium at ratepayers expense that IF the same rules had applied as some posters are suggesting they should, with regards to attendances at CP, then back when it was built the KC should NEVER have been built so big as according to some FC fans on here its would be impossible for a club to increase attendances by 25% (let alone by 100%) with a new ground with improved facilities, when in fact it's been proven that it can be done (by yourselves) when attendances increased from an average of around 6,500 to almost 13,000.
The other inference being made is that we cannot fill the one we have got, so why should we have a new ground, well once again, you were not even half filling the Boulevard for the preceding three seasons to the KC move, while we are at 80% capacity each game.
I am therefore arguing that it would be relatively easy for Hull KR to go from 8,100 average in a ground with below avarage facilities to 10,000 average in a new ground with excellent facilities. I realise there will have to be some payback to the council as there is with you and Hull City, but we at least deserve the chance to progress seeing as the other two professional clubs in the city have been given the chance to at an initial capital cost to the ratepayers of ALL of Hull.
No, we are in a stadium at our own expense. The KC stadium was built as a community project for the whole of the city that should eventually pay for itself. You seem to be forgetting the other team that also pays to use the stadium. One last time, the KC stadium was not built for Hull FC so why would you use Hull FC as the basis for your arguement? The stadium has hosted International events so always needed the extra capacity. IF the stadium had been built just for Hull FC the capacity would have been nowhere near 25000.
The council provided a stadium that was made available for use for all 3 professional teams in the city. The fact your club refused to use it doesn't mean the council should then have to fork out yet more money so you can have your own private upgraded facilities with no real "payback" to the council.
Post subject: Re: Hull KR fans demand council investment in Craven Park
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:29 pm
ComeOnYouUll
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Joined: Sep 25 2003 Posts: 22289
His Bobness wrote:Back in the late 70's Hull were down to 900 supporters and no I have not missed a zero off that figure.
1976-77 average 3,860 1977-78 5,112 (last time Rovers had a higher average at 5,352 ) 1978-79 6,853 (in the second division, higest average in either division) 1979-80 10,021
The SINGLE sub 1,000 attendance against Huyton was in 1974.
Post subject: Re: Hull KR fans demand council investment in Craven Park
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:46 pm
Sandro II Terrorista
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Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
ComeOnYouUll wrote:Or what about in 1997 in the NFL when we got a few 8,000 attendances?
How did American Football go? Never liked that paint they put under their eyes me...Sinister.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Post subject: Re: Hull KR fans demand council investment in Craven Park
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:04 pm
Bertie
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Joined: Jun 04 2009 Posts: 1437
Lets hope Rovers get some support from the council to improve facilities, then perhaps the dullers who travel in their hundreds to the derby will need another excuse for not following their team to Craven Park.
Mind you after two derby wins against us this year, the " faithful support" for the 2011 derby at C.P. could even reach four figures.
Standing up to the forum bully.
It must be working, he doesn't like me...i'm devastated
Post subject: Re: Hull KR fans demand council investment in Craven Park
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:41 pm
fcimp
Club Coach
Joined: Apr 17 2005 Posts: 3469 Location: With Hull's only grade "A" SL club.
Bertie wrote:Lets hope Rovers get some support from the council to improve facilities, then perhaps the dullers who travel in their hundreds to the derby will need another excuse for not following their team to Craven Park.
Mind you after two derby wins against us this year, the " faithful support" for the 2011 derby at C.P. could even reach four figures.
You'll get nothing from the council, you've had enough and you turned down the best opportunity you've ever had, as for support, if you had a 25,000 stadium where the away fans could see what was going on and be charged the same as everyone else, we would out number you which would be a bit of a showing up now wouldn't it.
Post subject: Re: Hull KR fans demand council investment in Craven Park
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:08 pm
Barnacle Bill
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Joined: May 15 2006 Posts: 2912
fcimp wrote:You'll get nothing from the council, you've had enough and you turned down the best opportunity you've ever had, as for support, if you had a 25,000 stadium where the away fans could see what was going on and be charged the same as everyone else, we would out number you which would be a bit of a showing up now wouldn't it.
Post subject: Re: Hull KR fans demand council investment in Craven Park
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:12 pm
Sandro II Terrorista
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Barnacle Bill wrote::SLEEPY:
It's too dull and predictable for me to even be bothered to pick up the mouse to click an emoticon.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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