Helmethunter,

REALLY? Just repetition of your earlier incorrect drivel? ONCE AGAIN in sipmler terms if I can think down to your level.

1. Lots of men in Bridgend wanted to buy the club but didn't want to clean up Samuel's mess. They did not like Mike Turner..... Still with me?
2. Samuel didn't want to clean up his own mess. He asked Mike Turner to find a man who would clean up his mess and give him some money. Then he ran away so the nasty men for the RFL couldn't say mean things to him..... Got that?
3. Mike Turner wanted to keep his job so he told the nice Bridgnd men to Feck off.... Understand still?
4. Mike Turner spoke to a man up in north wales who had lots of money, nice toys and wanted to have a new toy. The man said mike turner could keep his job.
5. Mike Turner sold the club to the man from north wales.
6. Mike Turner kept his job. Leighton Samuel got somebody else to clean up his mess and get paid for it and lots of people down in South Wales were sad.
7. Leighton Samuel COULD have sold the club to the nice men form Bridgend and all the South Wales people would have been happy. But Leighton is a mean, nasty man and Mike is a liar who wanted to keep his job.
8. Nasty Leighton would not have closed the club down because he loves having money even more than being mean.

I hope that's dumbed down enough for you HH because I can't think any thicker than that, though I do have a cactus who's on your intellectual level.

Oh helmet, and I LOVE your naiive assumption that Leighton Samuel brought Noble to the Crusaders.
It is well known that Brian Noble is on an RFL contract that GUARANTEES his wages, because the competency of Samuel and Turner are well known.
Noble is not an idiot. He would not go to such a shambles of a club unless he could be sure of being paid.

Recent comical events surrounding players contracts at your club are well known and even Spongy wouldn't have the nerve / stupidity to challenge that statement.

Just ban this keyboard warrior, he has said multiple times that he doesn't even want an account. Do it for him, and delete it. He can't even have a reasonable debate without looking like a moronic turd

who are you then grendal. Give us your name

You have still not answered the question of why the club was up for sale, and the answer to that is because Samuel literally could not afford to run it anymore and it was going to go bust. Not because he is a 'nasty man' and wanted to upset everyone. Because the club was about to go bust. Samuel wouldn't have 'closed it down', it would have gone into liquidation and ceased to exist. If a Bridgend-based consortium had bought the club, then it would still have had insurmountable debts, gone into liquidation and ceased to exist. How do you think the club would have continued to exist with massive debts? And don't say Samuel would have paid them, because he physically couldn't, hence the need to sell in the first place. That's without taking into consideration whether or not the Bridgend-based buyers actually had the necessary resources - I could quite easily say that I wanted to buy the club and keep it in the South, that doesn't mean I would have been a viable option. I think we all agree that Mike Turner is an idiot and a liar, but that does not mean there was an option to keep the club in the South, because if there was then it would have remained there.
It's completely immaterial, but Samuel brought Noble, Harris and Sharp to South Wales, outlined his plans for the club, even helped find them houses etc before they signed their contracts. You can't deny that happened, because it did, look at the interviews and reports from when they were appointed if you don't believe me.

I'm not sure why you have given me ownership of Crusaders, I don't really have anything to do with then, but the current problems there are everything to do with Mike Turner and the new owners and nothing to do with this discussion.

Helmet, I've explained it as simply as I can. I'm not discussing it with you any further if you still don't get it.

Spongebob, so you want my real name do you? Tell you what, lead by example you angry, ANGRY little lion man. I'm guessing something like Maldwyn? Maldwyn Twlldyn perhaps?
And apparently Helmet does not have the AUTHORITY to ban my account, despite your seething rage. A moderator without banning authority. A kinda cyber-eunuch. Seems pointless to me.

Translation: I cannot address any of the points you have raised.

I could quite easily ban you if I wanted to. As I said, unfortunately making up unsubstantiated rubbish is not a bannable offence.

No. Translation: You are too thick to understand even when I write it at a primary school level for you.



No you couldn't ban me. you are a cyber-eunuch with no direct power yourself. You're the tea-boy for the PROPER moderators.

The reason you don't ban me is not because of "unsubstantiated rubbish" (thranslation the many, many things that Helmethunter does not understand). It's because you don't have the power. Now get the kettle on tea-boy.

If you HAD the power you'd have banned me for what YOU would call the personal abuse (and everyone else would call accurate assessment) of yourself and the angry, angry little lion boy that is Spongebob.

Why don't you go and tell on me to one of the proper moderators? THEY might ban me!

MODERATORS, the car-park attendants of the web. The oompa loompas of the internet even. The joyless, mindless drones that "enforce" a mundanity on lively debate so that the thick little daisies like Spongebob don't get intimidated by the big words .

There you go. I've even given you the "crime" . Personal abuse . I've never read the AUP but I'm sure that's in there. Ban / don't ban. Whatever will I do with my 5 minutes on here every coupla weeks?

Er. Okaaaay!

Grendal ha, you can be banned on the personal abuse that you spout in every post. I 'm pretty sure it's in the rules.

Oh and you haven't answered a single question. You have dodged every single one. You keep harping on about everyone else being thick too?? Something you want to tell us. Always the ones in denial that shout about it.

My name is on my organisations website. Look up lemonparty.