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Should we scrap the 4 nations tournament?
Yes 12%  12%  [ 8 ]
No 88%  88%  [ 60 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:03 am 
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roughyedspud wrote:if by "lions" you mean england touring NZ or NZ touring here to play england then you can rub out the pencil and permanent marker that sucker down


Where has this been confirmed???






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 Post subject: Re: Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:19 am 
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australia have already confirmed they are'nt playing any tests after the 2012 season....so a 4nations is out..a tri nations with ENG,NZ & a.n.other would'nt work

forming a GB team would be pointless...12months before a world cup,where we compete as england,scotland & wales,we should be building the hype of england,scotland & wales.....not 17 englishmen playing as GB..

which only leaves england & NZ to contest a series between each other...like i said whether its up here or down there...it's going to happen






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 Post subject: Re: Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:11 pm 
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A tri nations featuring PNG, NZ and England would be great with some games in PNG. We should use int RL to grow the game as well as raise money. In fact a GB tour of the South pacific would be great with two test against PNG, two against NZ and games in Fiji and Samoa. You can but dream!






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 Post subject: Re: Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:13 pm 
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I think that the game has moved on now and that Kangaroo, Kiwi and Lions tours are a thing of the past. It can't be underestimated how important it is to have a structured international programme to raise the games profile and attract sponsors and advertisers to the game, and to help to persuade players to not switch codes.

In order to give the travelling teams a warm up game before the 4 Nations starts they could be given a game against the Grand Final winners, e.g. Australia and New Zealand could have played Leeds last year. It's a nice reward for being champions and will bring some publicity, as well as being a throwback for older fans.

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 Post subject: Re: Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:33 pm 
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Barry_McKenzie wrote:I like RU ... as well as League.

I drink with quite a few RU fans.

They see RL the same way as we see Kiwis.

That slightly irritating insignificant similar neighbour that always seems to be there but would wish no harm on them.

RU Fans/Players/Organisations dont CARE what RL does. Its 2 differnt sports. RU dont want to see RL put out of business. RU doesnt care about RL.

I wish people would realise that.

Bazza, I disagree about the 4 nations thingy.....it's good that the top 3 nations and 1 other meet regularly.....and anything is possible as the current RL World Champions will tell you :wink:
As for the supposed Union wanting League gone......I couldn't agree more. I too watch both codes and freely admit to watching less and less union these days, but also to enjoying the current tri-nations. For me to admit thios on the NRL boards would result in 2 particular posters calling me a union troll, asking me over to woolong (or something like that) for a fist fight.
It is a simple fact that Union has no interest in League apart from picking up a couple of players here and there.......and so what? Izzy is off to AFL.......and according to the gang of 2 on the NRL boards he should be flayed at the stake...whenall he is doing is earning more money. League will survive without him......
Union have gone froma standing start as shamateur to a massive global event in their world cup. They will attract major sponsors (no offence to engage....but I'd rate Guinness as a much bigger brand) and get TV audiences on a global scale that League can only dream of.
Why in gods name would union give a flying one about league :CRAZY:
I watched the Crim v NZ game last weekend with 2 fumbleball fans....they had no idea of the rules, asked whether it was union or league and then asked what the difference was......AFL fans don't care either, but don't tell that to the siamese twins over on the NRL board...they'll run to the mods trying to get you banned.

League is a sport in its own right and needs to make decisions on what is best for itself....not worry about other codes. They all have issues of their won to deal with.

But...I say, keep the 4 nations.......Australia are not as good as they have been and the others are catching up.






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 Post subject: Re: Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:42 am 
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gutterfax wrote:...Australia are not as good as they have been and the others are catching up.

Seem to hear this every year. Not as good as when? We just won the last tournament by 30 points in the final.

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 Post subject: Re: Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:55 am 
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but they only won it in the last 15mins with pretty much every try coming down that left flank from which our left Centre had just been knocked out the game...people only see the scoreline...look at the game..england where unlucky

they are'nt ask good as they used to be...and if it was'nt inglis or slater digging them out the crap so often in recent years you'd all see it






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 Post subject: Re: Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:23 am 
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No, that's how you Poms like to recall it. Fact is we had just scored 2 tries down Shenton's side in the space of about 7 minutes. After he went off, we just continued and thus the scoreline. Watch the game again. No 30 point loss is "unlucky".

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 Post subject: Re: Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:27 am 
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"Spud..
they are'nt ask good as they used to be...and if it was'nt inglis or slater digging them out the crap so often in recent years you'd all see it"






If not Slater it would be Hayne or Boyd etc etc.
If its not Inglis its Gasnier or Jennings, it does not matter.
You must think Michael Shenton is a Gun Centre that contained the Oz backline single handed.
He knocked himself out with poor tackling technique.
The fact that Oz put the foot down at in the last 20 minutes of the game has little or nothing to do with Shenton leaving the field.
The same as they tore England a new date in the first half of the first game then dropped off.

They just do what they have to.
Should they go full bore all game and win by a Cricket score? that will help sell tickets in half empty small stadiums.


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 Post subject: Re: Should the 4 Nations Tournament be scrapped?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:33 am 
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As for the supposed Union wanting League gone......I couldn't agree more. I too watch both codes and freely admit to watching less and less union these days, but also to enjoying the current tri-nations. For me to admit thios on the NRL boards would result in 2 particular posters calling me a union troll, asking me over to woolong (or something like that) for a fist fight.
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